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Julia Reda

juliareda.eu · Personal blog · on HN since 2014

Julia Reda, a former Pirate Party member of the European Parliament, writes on EU copyright reform, Article 13, link taxes and upload filters.

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laurent92 · 2021-02-02
For those who want to keep tabs on the topic: Julia Reda, German EU MEP, is quite a critic reference on this topic – a good blog to follow. https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/censorship-machines/
jaifraic · 2019-03-21
This is false. A13 Chapter 5[1] explicitly allows posts like yours: The cooperation between online content service providers and rightholders shall not result in the prevention of the availability of works or other subject matter uploaded by users which do not infringe copyright and related rights, including where such works or subject matter are covered by an exception or limitation. Member States shall ensure that users in all Member States are able to rely on the following existing exceptions and limitations when uploading and making available content generated by users on online content sharing services: a) quotation, criticism, review, b) use for the purpose of caricature, parody or pastiche. It would however forbid you to post that lyrics without any commentary or some sort of relection. [1]: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Art_13_unofficial.pdf
_ted_ · 2019-02-22
France also wants to break Internet and culture sharing (and code). There is a new law project in EU that will give the power to big companies to control what we have the right to publish, and that makes the host platform legally responsible of what users post. https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/article-13-worse/ There is lot of private initiatives to make great things, but no state vision to make things right. The only value they see is economical, but not for the people.
pornel · 2018-09-12
If you follow Julia Reda's blog (she's MEP), you can get tons of insight into this issue in the EU parliament: https://juliareda.eu/2018/09/copyright-showdown/
AnssiH · 2018-09-12
I think at least the intent is to avoid smaller businesses being hit too much. If the PDF (https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Copyright_Sept12_Voss.… posted elsewhere in this discussion is accurate, Article 13 paragraph 3 was amended: > When defining best practices, special account shall be taken of fundamental rights, the use of exceptions and limitations as well as ensuring that the burden on SMEs remain appropriate and that automated blocking of content is avoided. SMEs = Small and Medium-sized enterprises
fermigier · 2018-09-07
Julia Reda's page on the EU Copyright reform is actually the best resource to get the facts right: https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/ (edit: Not just the facts of course, also her opinion, shared by many organisations and individuals knowledgeable on how the Internet should work, eg. Vinton Cerf or Tim Berners-Lee, see https://www.eff.org/files/2018/06/13/article13letter.pdf).
fauigerzigerk · 2018-07-05
Perhaps this will help you understand why the somewhat obscure and guarded legal language in the proposal is interpreted the way it is: https://juliareda.eu/2018/06/article-11-13-vote/ The upshot (wrt upload filters) is that the proposal makes platforms directly liable for the actions of their users. This follows from the text in the proposal where hosting user content is defined as an act of communication to the public.
richardwigley · 2015-07-02
Agreed, it would make more sense to use the EU apparatus. The change org was promoted through German pirate party (according to link I followed from here https://juliareda.eu/2015/06/who-is-behind-the-attack-on-freedom-of-pa… )
maeln · 2019-02-13
France tried to push two time such a law (with the difference that it was for viewing terrorist website "regularly")[0]. This law was banned two time by the Conseil Constitutionnel (equivalent of the supreme court I think)[1]. But now EU is trying to put a "terrorist-filter"[2], which, I guess, our law-maker are probably heavily pushing for. Such a proposition might be able to pass through the Conseil Constitutionnel, since banning website (in France) has already been approved and is in place (some website like The Pirate Bay cannot be accessed "normally" in France). This should really worry us. The definition of terrorism or extremism has always been blurry (see for example the situation with the PKK). And, in any case, it has been shown many time again that this kind of measure could be misused, either intentionally, or by technical ignorance (banning a shared IP). The Australian censorship is a good example of that[3]. All these laws have been also proven ineffective at best and are just a form of power-grab by authorities. A prime example of that is, yet again, France, where most of the "anti-terrorsime" laws passed after the Paris attack have mostly been used against various political militant and, right now, against the protest going on with the gilets jaunes (See for example, the use of emergency state against the COP21 militant [4]) This will not stop, fear has always been used as an excuse to grab more power. Thats why it's important that we keep supporting and…
vesinisa · 2018-07-05
Yeah sure - I bet if you live in a region where no company has bought exclusive television rights to F1. In my country, a pay channel owns exclusive rights to all F1 broadcasting, so all official F1 content on YouTube etc. is simply blocked here (shows the infamous "This content is not available in your country" error.) They have gone to great lengths to ensure the only way I can view live F1 GPs legally is to pay 25€/mon subscription to the cable company. If I had a choice, I would actually be happy to subscribe to UK's Sky Sports F1 channel, who for 20€/mon have much more extensive coverage of the whole GP weekend, with world-class commentators in studio and on track-side, including retired F1 drivers' title holders. The cable company broadcasting in my country has lower quality and less content, so I don't feel like paying them each month more than I pay to my ISP. But of course, due to the very same geo-blocking rules, Sky Sports F1 is unable to sell their subscription to my country, because they only have rights for UK broadcasting. Same thing applies to Netflix etc., where some content may be available in one EU country but not in another. This is actually a violation of the EU's core single market principle (customers should be able to freely procure services from providers in any EU country, not just providers in their home country). And a few years ago, the EU Parliament was actually bullish about abolishing the whole practice of digital content geo-blocking…
stakhanov · 2018-07-05
It requires a lot of knowledge of the context and some pretty hard work of crossreferencing several legislative texts to really get to what's going on here, although I think that the text by Julia Reda does it justice pretty well. https://juliareda.eu/2018/06/article-11-13-vote/ In what follows, I'll say a bit about Article 11, because it's the part of the debate that I have been following more closely, and the one that I actually care about. There is some context to this. This is a change that media corporations have been pushing for for many many years. When they did so at the level of national law in several European countries, they weren't quite as good as they are this time around at concealing their dark design. They basically came straight out and said: "We want to create an organization representing all of us in collective bargaining against the likes of Google. We want that organization to collect money from Google, compensating us for displaying headlines, webpage titles, and automatically generated summaries in search results and on Google news. And we want to change copyright so as to make it so." Some of the legislative text that was passed around on the national level in several European countries, such as Germany, Austria, and Spain, actually made explicit mention of automatically generated summaries of copyrighted material, or use of copyrighted material by search engines and content aggregators etc. In Germany, such a law actually entered into…
dannyobrien · 2018-06-08
Happy to take corrections to the text (and I can fix that link), but both of the points you're criticising are still correct, and actually re-inforced by the points you make -- noncommercial and not-for-profit are interchangeable in this context: your quotation is from the President's negotiating text, and ours is from the rapporteur's proposed amendment text. Neither are final, or even at this point definitive. The final text will be a compromise between these positions, but both attempt to exclude Github and Wikipedia with inaccurate and non-useful descriptions. And the key point remains that the limitations on Article 11 will be defined on a nation-by-nation basis, rather those specified in an EU-wide text. The two texts express the same ideas in slightly different terms. If you'd like an alternative explanation of these issues, I'd recommend Julia Reda's breakdown of the same problems here: https://juliareda.eu/2018/05/censorship-machines-link-tax-finish-line/
freeflight · 2021-12-24
It's interesting how regularly US social media have these "oopsie" moderation [0]/copyright [1] "accidents". Even more interesting when they openly admit to censoring content [2]. I wonder how much of that is actually "accident" and how much of it is just testing out boundaries how far they can go before it gets noticed too widely [3]? [0] https://nypost.com/2021/03/24/twitter-censoring-detention-center-photo… [1] https://juliareda.eu/2017/09/when-filters-fail/ [2] https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/11/04/goog-n04.html [3] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37318031
danuker · 2021-08-11
Fun fact: the EU funded a study which ended up showing piracy has no effect on sales, then tried to bury it. https://juliareda.eu/2017/09/secret-copyright-infringement-study/ There is a different incentive at play here. Netflix wants to track individuals. I wouldn't be surprised if some other agreement were behind this move, perhaps like other secret agreements: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/23/nsa-prism-costs-tech-com…
sjy · 2021-07-09
Using copyright works to train an AI may qualify as fair use, meaning the terms of any copyright licence can be ignored, as argued in this blog post by reference to the Google Books litigation: https://juliareda.eu/2021/07/github-copilot-is-not-infringing-your-cop…
timdaub · 2021-07-05
Agree. I've written a comment on her blog about this. Hoping she'll enable it. I've published an opinion piece on the subject matter myself: https://rugpullindex.com/blog#BuiltonStolenData Edit: My comment was enabled: https://juliareda.eu/2021/07/github-copilot-is-not-infringing-your-cop…
pmlnr · 2021-05-25
> So this does not require Whatsapp/Facebook to proactively monitor its network Welcome to Article 11 & 13: https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/
MikeUt · 2021-03-14
A suppressed European Commission study found piracy to have negligible effect: https://juliareda.eu/2017/09/secret-copyright-infringement-study/ The study’s conclusion: With the exception of recently released blockbusters, there is no evidence to support the idea that online copyright infringement displaces sales. While this result is not unique, but consistent with previous studies, it begs the question: Why did the Commission, after having spent a significant amount of money on it, choose not to publish this study for almost two years?
fuzxi · 2020-08-26
Absolutely ridiculous to spend so much time and effort prosecuting crimes that have, at most, a marginal effect on the bottom lines of AAA film studios. [1] [1]: https://juliareda.eu/2017/09/secret-copyright-infringement-study/ (check the linked pdf for the full study)
im_dario · 2020-05-23
Actually, previous German MEP for Piratenpartei got one million budget to pay security audits for Apache and Keepass https://juliareda.eu/2016/10/ep-votes-to-extend-fossa/
alexis_fr · 2020-02-17
That is a solution only valid for US and for the current legislation since it was introduced in 2006. It can be changed at any time. For example other countries may use of laws (EU Arricle 13, for instance) to bend social media [1], and Facebook has accepted to have Marlène Schiappa’s (our Minister of Equality) agents in-house. Law is the embodiment of the current political power balance, not a fixed referential to stake culprits upon. And for the moment, social media are the power in the balance, so it’s hard to use the law against them. [1] https://juliareda.eu/2019/12/french_uploadfilter_law/
rurban · 2019-06-11
That the link to Julia Reda's mentioned bug bounty program, which caused all these new reportings: https://juliareda.eu/2018/12/eu-fossa-bug-bounties/ eg glibc got a payout of 45.000 which means 4 exceptional risk bugs and 1 critical. https://www.intigriti.com/public/project/glibc/glibc I find that quite disturbing.
shmerl · 2019-04-09
I suppose you missed Article 11, which a link tax: https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/extra-copyright-for-news-site… That's an additional garbage to Article 13, which is a censorship law (upload filters). Above I commented on Article 11 when talking about obsolete industries trying to leech their more successful rivals.
makomk · 2019-03-26
Apparently, France happened to that: https://juliareda.eu/2019/02/article-13-worse/
tutanchamun · 2019-03-26
Julia Reda has posted the raw data: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf It should be available on the site of the european parliament as well.
unicornporn · 2019-03-26
> All for-profit plateforms over 3 years old are affected, even small ones https://www.politico.eu/pro/germany-weighs-in-on-copyright-with-last-m… So, what happened to that? ^ Parliament wanted: > Apply the law to platforms that “optimise and promote” significant amounts of user-uploaded works and are not small businesses (turnover below €10M and less than 50 employees) According to: https://juliareda.eu/2018/10/copyright-trilogue-positions/
dvdkhlng · 2019-03-26
This list of votes was just linked from blog.fefe.de: https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf

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