Ian Bogost

bogost.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2009

Ian Bogost, game designer and academic, writes essays on video games, platforms and technology culture, and made the satirical Cow Clicker.

What HN saysHN links it for Cow Clicker, Atari 2600 CRT work and his essays; one commenter calls him an essayist and cites his Mario Kart blue shell piece.
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Most-shared posts

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    Cow Clicker
    6 people · 16 points · first shared 2010 · 2 comments on HN
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    A Television Simulator
    3 people · 3 points · first shared 2017 · 1 comments on HN
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    Cow clicker
    3 people · first shared 2015
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    Gamification is bullshit
    2 people · 193 points · first shared 2011 · 63 comments on HN
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    The Squalid Grace of Flappy Bird
    2 people · 3 points · first shared 2014 · discussion on HN
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    Cascading Failure (on Google's Malware Detection)
    2 people · 1 points · first shared 2009 · discussion on HN
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    Shit Crayons
    2 people · 1 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
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    A Facebook Game about Facebook Games
    1 people · 25 points · first shared 2010 · 3 comments on HN
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    Two billionaires on the university
    1 people · 21 points · first shared 2013 · 11 comments on HN
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    Teaching Computing with... Computers?
    1 people · 9 points · first shared 2009 · 2 comments on HN
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    Meh and the Mundane Sublime
    1 people · 9 points · first shared 2009 · 3 comments on HN

What HN people wrote when they linked it

Malic · 2017-03-06
Somewhat related to those that would like to know more... Great efforts were made to extend the Atari 2600 emulator, Stella, to deal with the imperfections of CRT displays that games of yesteryear depended on. Ian Bogost, co-author of "Racing the Beam" (https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/racing-beam), lead a team to make a code contribution to Stella that attempted to emulate the visual qualities that CRTs exhibited. "...In Spring 2009, I tasked a Georgia Tech Computer Science capstone group to modify Stella, adding settings to simulate the CRT behaviors described above. The group consisted of five committed and talented CS seniors: Edward Booth, Michael Cook, Justin Dobbs, Will Rowland, and Prince Yang..." http://bogost.com/games/a_television_simulator/
tmurray · 2012-08-23
I don't think most people would dispute that games in general are worthwhile, but I think there are also arguments to be made about the quality of what Zynga does. Obvious example: http://www.bogost.com/blog/cow_clicker_1.shtml
benjamincburns · 2014-07-08
Respectfully, I think you're wrong on your conclusion. There's a lack of alignment between a person's explicitly declared preferences and the things which actually make them happy. This is so ridiculously true when it comes to dating on and offline. I think this is the real, society advancing problem on which dating centric startups should focus. I'm all for indulging people (and making a buck), but sites like this one generally are useless, depressing, and alienating to a good number of their users. Edit: There's also a really harmful cycle of addiction which a lot of people get into on these sites. Quite often the proprietors design their dating sites to promote such cycles, and it's more than a little depressing. To see what I'm talking about, read Ian Bogost's Cow Clicker post [1], and then imagine that the daunting chore of participating in the "social game" is directly tied to your self worth. At the very least please don't do that to your users. 1: http://bogost.com/writing/blog/cow_clicker_1/
nycdotnet · 2024-05-28
Ian Bogost is more of an essayist than a journalist. His magnum opus is his analysis of the blue shell in Mario Kart. https://bogost.com/writing/blue-shell-discontents/
pjc50 · 2021-12-11
> just core essential game mechanics Controversial; I'm reminded of how Ian Bogost made Cow Clicker as a satire of how reductive clickers were as a game mechanic, only to find people playing it unironically. https://www.wired.com/2011/12/ff-cowclicker/ http://bogost.com/games/cow_clicker/
watersb · 2021-09-29
Possibly related, academic approach to video games and their potential as teaching tools: http://bogost.com/books/
ASalazarMX · 2021-08-17
I still chuckle about Cow Clicker, made by Ian Bogost. It went from Farmville satire to full-blown ironic game because people kept playing it, and even paying microtransactions. It says something about humanity, but I'm not sure what. http://bogost.com/games/cow_clicker/
msla · 2018-02-26
CRTs in general are complex pieces of machinery which do odd, hard-to-emulate things to graphics. Here's an interesting post on the topic: http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3786 And one with more detail: http://bogost.com/games/a_television_simulator/
gonubalabala · 2017-08-11
One could draw a few lines at right angles on this map as well http://bogost.com/middle-earth.jpg
mjn · 2014-05-05
"Like the catcall of 'whore' or 'crook,' the Facebook Platform passes judgement before you even signed up for it. ... If you were innocent, why did you start using the Facebook Platform in the first place? ... Maybe it's me, maybe it's me, Facebook devs whisper quietly, alone, every Tuesday, before heaving the deep, lumbering sighs of resignation beyond sorrow." http://www.bogost.com/blog/oauth_of_fealty.shtml
networked · 2013-02-18
Some people[1][2][3] have been doing long-form video game journalism for a while, mostly in the form of reviews that go in-depth into questions of video game design. As for long-form investigative game journalism I would recommend reading http://insertcredit.com/2011/09/22/who-killed-videogames-a-ghost-story… and its companion piece http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=1076 for an example. [1] http://insertcredit.com/ [2] http://www.actionbutton.net/ [3] http://culture.vg/ Edit: oh, and check out Ian Bogost's online writing: http://www.bogost.com/writing/. Edit 2: there are also video series about video games that are neither reviews nor consumer-oriented funny (or "funny") news programs but rather try to provide insight into the medium. See, for example, http://www.errantsignal.com/blog/.
th0ma5 · 2012-02-10
Reminds me of the CRT simulator for Stella http://www.bogost.com/games/a_television_simulator.shtml
_delirium · 2011-11-28
One proposal, which I'm somewhat sympathetic to, that a general cognitive skill of being able to think procedurally or computationally is important in the 21st century, even if the craft of being able to program is more specialized. Some papers on that: http://www.bogost.com/writing/procedural_literacy.shtml http://dm.lcc.gatech.edu/~mateas/publications/MateasOTH2005.pdf http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/usr/wing/www/publications/Wing06.pdf
listic · 2010-05-19
There's also a game by Ian Bogost called Guru Meditation http://www.bogost.com/games/guru_meditation.shtml for Atari VCS (2600) and iPhone.
cbau · 2016-11-08
That's only to a certain extent. You can imagine a set of all the pieces of art you can make and all the interesting pieces of art in that set. If they're are few interesting pieces, then the constraints do more harm than good. A good medium for expression will allow you to both express many ideas and restrict you from expressing the uninteresting ones. To make this concrete, in programming, type checking eliminates all the programs which would have a type error so they are good constraints. But some languages constrain you in arbitrary way which hurts. For example, Java doesn't let you do any functional programming and has a weak type system, which means introduces design patterns. Ian Bogost wrote a good piece on this called "Shit Crayons" comparing games like Spore to Photoshop, where even though Photoshop is more powerful, most of the stuff you can produce is bad, supporting the idea of constraints. But then he took apart Minecraft for being overly restrictive, causing many things like houses to be dull. http://bogost.com/writing/shit_crayons/
the_af · 2015-06-15
> The issue comes down to if games are a legitimate, healthy hobby or not. For me the issue is not whether "games are a healthy hobby", but whether F2P games are. I think they are not, or rather I should clarify: the kind of games usually called F2P or "freemium", which base their gameplay on grinding and which try to make you spend money to buy coins, which are powerups that essentially "speed up" the boring parts of the game are not a legitimate, healthy hobby. They are preying on people's addictive behavior while providing very little genuine value in return. They are what people like Jonathan Blow (of Braid fame) derides as Skinner Boxes and what Ian Bogost mocked with his game "Cow Clicker" (http://bogost.com/games/cow_clicker/). I'm a Kongregate player and there are true gems in there, but most F2P games can be safely disregarded. If it has coins you can buy, or you can spend real money to bypass parts of the game, this is a huge red flag. (Another genre that I completely ignore is the overcrowded "Empire Building Strategy Game", which if you pay attention is always the exact same game with a different skin every time -- and most are F2P, while we're at it).
Pongo_the_Great · 2012-09-12
This struck me as an interesting take, due to your analogy: (some) viruses[1] can be inoculated against. Looking at this through a 'real world' lens, rather than a mimetic one, suggests something stronger. Your argument is that is, Facebook has an interest in providing inoculation against viruses to their users, while the viruses themselves (Zynga) have a vested interest in removing possible inoculating effects within their ecosystem. i.e. Facebook should provide inoculation against Zynga. Now, your argument revolves around the "active/positive" end of this, where you make an appeal to Facebook to reduce the most egregious examples of this[2], as it will increase user pleasure, enhance the ecosystem and provide you with healthy users. To be fair, this approach has produced some movement from Facebook on the more obvious ones (such as the early phone ads). This is all well and good ~ however, you're ignoring the "negative/passive" way in which this is done. Zynga actively creates an ecosystem that ensures that the most successful viruses (i.e. <b>your social game</b>) have to conform to the most successful strategies, precisely because it is so metric / psychologically driven. If you want to compete against a dominant virus, aping the same Skinner-driven models (http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/11/28/1931246/more-on-why-it-stinks-… makes sense, both in market terms and ecological terms. But you're aiming at the wrong target. Facebook isn't purely a host,…
saraid216 · 2012-07-09
> If morality is not the point, why "should [it] be grounded in a solid self-aware understanding of what and why you act"? Why "design intentionally"? Why "think about the details"? Why "care about consequences"? Why "hold onto what is good"? What is the measure of good? If you answer that Bartlett is talking about aesthetics not morality, then why the fuck did you bring him up? It would not be a "similar message" at all. See feedback about listening. Of course he was talking about morality. He simply didn't need to bring it up. He didn't need to say "there exists immoral game design"; he understood that it was not him who needed to make the value judgement, but the designer who needed to make the judgement upon himself. He was making people into better designers, rather than offering a way to critique design. Here's another example of the point the OP is making (and this time I can link to it, since it's not in the GDC Vault): http://www.bogost.com/writing/the_bulldog_and_the_pegasus.shtml And again, morality goes unmentioned. A different thinker talks about the same thing: http://www.raphkoster.com/2010/02/18/gameifying-everything/ But of course, my knowledge is restricted to game design. I'd have more trouble citing designers outside that field, though I suspect I could find something from Luke Wroblewski or someone from 37s or something. By his own admission, the author is not talking about morality. He is saying that "Morals ... should be used to guide design…

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