Beehaw

The fediverse has places like https://kbin.social/ or there are instances of Lemmy, (https://join-lemmy.org/instances) but most people will want to avoid the "main" lemmy instances for places like https://beehaw.org/ The main lemmy instance is under heavy load and its admins definitely have their own political slant, and if you're not comfortable with that (most aren't) it's best to find a different one or make your own instance.

I'd recommend anyone to try out lemmy. Open source, federated, growing. (I signed up to the https://feddit.de/ instance, but you could use https://beehaw.org/ as well, makes no difference where you sign up) More and more people are leaving Reddit for lemmy...and the more people migrate, the better. I went through the Digg exodus and have now left Reddit completely and don't miss it. If I need to read about a product, I'll still type "site:reddit.com" into google and hope that my old.reddit.com extension works for the forseeable future, but that will be the entirety of my interactions with Reddit until Lemmy replaces that as well.

Agree. https://beehaw.org in particular is great

Reasonable level of popularity is hard to really gauge. There is no current Reddit replacement for everything it is. Federated services like Piefed, Lemmy, etc are trying and there's good content to be had on those. It's like an early reddit but not as mainstream. Checkout something like https://beehaw.org for one such instance and see if it's your thing.

The threadiverse is definitely less popular than mastodon, but I think it has a lot of potential. Here are a few good instances for the curious. You can quickly browse the main pages and see if the content appeals to you: - https://beehaw.org/ (heavily-moderated in a way that many people like) - https://lemmy.zip/ (my home instance) - https://programming.dev/ (most of the big programming subreddits live here)

It depends a lot which server you join, https://beehaw.org it's very welcoming, https://lemmygrad.ml is full of tankies that hate the West (supposedly it's about communism, because original creator is a communist, but it's more pro Russia pro China, anti US and in support anything the West doesn't support and vice versa). If you go to https://lemmy.world (the biggest server) you'll see mostly memes. Though you can subscribe to different communities and customize your experience, often what you can experience from specific community depends on which server it is located. https://programming.dev/ and https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/ might be good for technology related communities.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy is a social link aggregator very similar to Reddit, powered by fediverse. Think of it like anyone can host an instance for their community, and all instances can interact with each other. For example check out the instance at https://beehaw.org/

Beehaw became a hub for the exodus largely through a misunderstanding—they were already active when Lemmy exploded, so a lot of the exiles found their way into their communities, but Beehaw's culture is in a lot of respects incompatible with Reddit's. It was only a matter of time before they decided preserving their community was more important than sheltering all of Reddit's exiles. I highly recommend reading Beehaw's history that they link from their sidebar. It helped me better understand the value proposition of the fediverse, and goes a long way towards explaining their perspective on the necessity of defederating the large instances: https://beehaw.org/post/107014

Lemmy has become one of the major "lifeboats" during the #RedditBlackout even this past week. This has lead to interesting performance issues and questions... as well as human-level scaling issues. On the technical side, this https://programming.dev thread (itself, a Lemmy instance) asks how Rust may have affected Lemmy. The ongoing discussion covers a wide variety of topics. The #1 post right now is frome [email protected], the owner of this instance. He took disk-measurements of the server and published them, demonstrating that Lemmy's current bottleneck seems to be RAM (proven by the change in Swapping behavior / Disk-io before-and-after he upgraded RAM). -------- I do think you can see the benefits of federation in this manner. Users from many instances: https://kbin.social, https://lemmy.world, and https://beehaw.org... and more (all different Lemmy instances) have joined in the discussion and have made a high-quality thread. --------- Note: I am bullish on federation / Fediverse after playing around with it this past week. I'm less bullish on Lemmy itself, which has proven to be a buggy, laggy mess. Still, there's good discussion happening on Lemmy now (albeit slower due to fewer users). Communities are springing up (and will be dying), and I'm sure instances will spin up and die too. But the idea of federation works, especially for bringing together the discussion. I think work (and play) needs to happen on Lemmy, kbin, Mastodon, and other Fediverse…

There's one on Lemmy/Beehaw: https://beehaw.org/c/[email protected]

That was the claim, but it’s clearly a lie. First, they’ve defederated with and blocked hundreds of instances, not two. It looks like close to 1,000. You can review yourself here: https://beehaw.org/instances Second, it appears they have even more moderators than the instances with which they defederated. More than enough to keep illegal content off the instance. But that’s not the intended goal. They want content off the instance which is ideologically opposed to the owner. They make that clear in the instance description. They want more moderation than Reddit, which is already filled with insular ideological spaces. The users are all very much on board with this ideological purity. They freely admit it, so I’m not sure why you would contend it.

I'm on Beehaw, and I like the way the defederation was handled. Here's the latest from them: https://beehaw.org/post/594843 You can see some positive comments from users about the change and a transparent road map for re-federating. To put it another way, would you want to join an instance that isn't trying (or is failing to) contain harassment and other forms of bad actors? That's the challenge the de-fed is addressing: https://beehaw.org/post/567170

The same devs who work on the Lemmy core and UI, also do Jerboa on the side. It's not their focus and given the sudden influx of users they likely won't a lot of time to devote to it. https://beehaw.org/c/[email protected] Alternatives are in the works, for example, https://beehaw.org/post/647773

Seems like beehaw is a very pro-censorship platform, and everything that social media should not be, so it will be a hard pass for me. Social media is a big enough echo chamber Edit: Now having read their "What is Beehaw" Post [1], I can clearly see I was correct and would NEVER want to be a part of that oppressive community, That post is fill with political ideology, plainly false statements, and mental contractions... wow. just wow [1] https://beehaw.org/post/107014

It might still remain in the cache of another instance, but there is really no permanence build into the Fediverse. If an instance goes down, its content and user accounts go down too. There is no quick&easy way to migrate content to another host. There are no crypt-ids (e.g. PGP keys), everything is refered to as user@host, even message-ids aren't even globally unique, e.g. these two refer to the same post: * https://beehaw.org/post/598023 * https://feddit.de/post/881008 Fediverse still has a lot of work to, right now it feels more like a quick hack than something that could significantly improve the Internet in the long run. If an instance goes malicious, you have all the same problems as you'd have with an unfederated server, after all federation is completely optional in the Fediverse.

Just went to the 'Programming' lemmy/beehaw and the first thing I see is a post about how they have had to defederate from some instances because of a lack of proper mod tools, trolls and bad actors. The irony. > https://beehaw.org/post/567170 > these two instances’ open registration policy, which is extremely problematic for us given how federation works and how trivial it makes trolling, harassment, and other undesirable behavior; > unfortunate reality we’ve also found is we just don’t have the tools or the time here to parse out all the good from all the bad. all we have is a nuke and some pretty rudimentary mod powers that don’t scale well. we have a list of improvements we’d like to see both on the moderation side of Lemmy and federation if at all possible–but we’re unanimous in the belief that we can’t wait on what we want to be developed here.

That's a feature, not a bug. Moderation in the fediverse (inc. Mastodon & Lemmy) means defederating from "problematic" instances, where problematic is defined in the rules of the server doing the federating server (which appears to be documented at https://beehaw.org/instances) This means moderation happens at a community & instance level rather than global moderation. Please correct me if I'm missing something - I'm quite new to Mastodon & the fediverse like I'm sure many are!

I see Beehaw on there a couple times. The defederation wars have already begun [0][1] [0] https://beehaw.org/post/567170 [1] https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/69543

It's on the web, so you can send links the regular way. Either right-click a post, copy link, paste into brother-in-law chat. Or open a post, copy the browser's address bar, paste into brother-in-law chat. E.g. https://beehaw.org/post/529329

As it happens, another big server, Beehaw, just defederated lemmy.world today. So drama has already begun. https://beehaw.org/post/567170

I just use the communities tab [0], that's on every instance. Then select All to get a list of all communities federated with this instance sorted by size. Other wise I just, use the search bar. I just tested it with the goal of finding a photography related community. Found it with the first search result from "photography". [1] Another example, I wanted to find a risc-v related community, one simple search [2], boom, I found one [3] [0] e.g.: https://feddit.de/communities/listing_type/All/page/1 [1] https://beehaw.org/search/q/photography/type/All/sort/TopAll/listing_t… [2] https://beehaw.org/search/q/riscv/type/All/sort/TopAll/listing_type/Al… [3] https://lemmy.ml/c/riscv

And it's already been defederated by others https://beehaw.org/post/567170?scrollToComments=true top 3 vs top 2 and top 7 [0] This is the main problem with the whole decentralized system and it won't go anywhere besides being a niche. 0, https://lemmyverse.net/

I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to aggregate all the programming forums into a single view. Does anyone know if that is possible? I think the first app that implements this will be a leader in the "Lemmy Revolution". As it stands I have to separately visit redundant forums to see what's going on in the community. https://beehaw.org/c/programming https://lemmy.ml/c/programming https://programming.dev/c/programming Asking a question seems like it has the same problem. I have post my question/article in multiple places to interact with different people that have the same interests.

Little addition: The Lemmy-verse does notice increased activity. https://beehaw.org/post/468998 If you want to join, probably better use one of the smaller instances.

I dont really have an issue with ones political leanings. On that site or otherwise. No doubt I have conversed and even debated with some that are Communist or Socialist, both on the internet and in real life. I was just in Vietnam for 3 weeks with one of my good friends who has a LOT of family over there and some of them, many of them embrace socialism. Talking to many of those folks over drinks was very interesting. Its when it becomes a core portion of your identity and you are throwing it others faces or using it as a pedestal for elitism that it rubs me wrong. And that is the feeling I get on that site. Heck they even had a thread on the very topic the other day [1] Again I am not saying its bad. Just it gives a very weird vibe and it will depend on how the new users play into that and affect it. [1]: https://beehaw.org/post/443376?scrollToComments=true

They talk a little about the state of the project and it's ability to scale here: https://beehaw.org/post/438094

It isn't trying to be a platform, its trying to be a community in the same sense that a church or a softball league is a community. That takes handling things differently and they can afford doing that because its a federated network where someone who doesn't want to be OPPRESSED can just go to a different instance. > Our goal is to create a platform in which nice people will want to stick around so that the experience is less toxic than other websites and because of such it needs to resemble an offline community - the rules must be more open to interpretation and the way the rules are interpreted needs to be a community effort. > We want this to be a community - this means that discussions about behavior should organically arise. When someone violates a rule they aren’t banned immediately, but rather reminded that they need to behave appropriately. In the offline world, this might resemble a friend asking you about how you treated their friend, a pastor pulling you aside and talking to you about how you’ve seemed on edge lately, or security asking you not to vape inside their establishment. Beehaw is a Community: https://beehaw.org/post/140733