Rasmus Lerdorf
toys.lerdorf.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2008
Rasmus Lerdorf, creator of PHP, writes about PHP, web hosting, and tools like VPS providers.
What HN saysHN repeatedly links his 2019 comparison of low-cost VPS providers as a useful overview that still holds up, including its Hetzner section.
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- 1Low-Cost VPS Testing9 people · 296 points · first shared 2019 · 137 comments on HN
- 2The no-framework PHP MVC framework6 people · 18 points · first shared 2008 · 3 comments on HN
- 3Rasmus Lerdorf's analysis of XHP3 people · 72 points · first shared 2010 · 20 comments on HN
- 4HipHop PHP - Nifty Trick?2 people · 6 points · first shared 2010 · 1 comments on HN
- 5Rasmus Lerdorf Reviews 10 VPS Providers (Digital Ocean, Linode Etc)2 people · 2 points · first shared 2018 · discussion on HN
- 6Remote Family Tech Support – Toys2 people · 2 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
- 7A bit of PHP history1 people · 2 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 8Writing an OAuth Provider Service1 people · 2 points · first shared 2010 · discussion on HN
- 958 Building a NAS1 people · first shared 2013
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lowendstock · 2022-06-28
Check https://www.lowendstock.com
Also Rasmus (of PHP) wrote a series of posts https://toys.lerdorf.com/low-cost-vps-testing a while ago comparing VPS providers in the $10/mo range.
It was discussed on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21725853
smarx007 · 2021-12-07
I "benchmarked" the network across a few big VPS providers, they all seem to do 400Mpbs+ within the continent and 100-200Mpbs when you go across the ocean (iperf3, I assume you also meant heavy sustained traffic). It also aligns with what the creator of PHP found out: https://toys.lerdorf.com/low-cost-vps-testing. Did you find a provider where the network would allow you to go 300Mbps+ across the ocean on a cheap VPS?
Re: CPU, if you were comparing them with the VMs from "the big 3", you should look under the "Dedicated vCPU" tab: https://www.hetzner.com/de/cloud
uaas · 2021-05-14
Here’s a useful overview of the vps landscape from Lerdorf (co-author of php) from the end of 2019. I think it’s still useful today: https://toys.lerdorf.com/low-cost-vps-testing
open-source-ux · 2020-09-15
Rasmus Lerdorf, the creator of PHP, did a test of low cost VPS providers in October 2019. Still useful in 2020:
https://toys.lerdorf.com/low-cost-vps-testing
Also discussed on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21725853
alephu5 · 2020-06-28
joefarish · 2020-04-01
itwy · 2017-11-30
A lot of PHP folks nowadays try to distance themselves from the simplicity that made PHP popular. Avoid falling into AbstractInterfaceAdapterFactory trap and use it like it was conceived to be used; simple and procedural (https://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/38-The-no-framework-PHP-MVC-framewor… Otherwise, just use Java.
rll · 2013-12-23
I just built one recently. Motherboard-wise you should get one that supports ECC ram. Other than that it doesn't matter that much. You typically don't use the onboard SATA ports either, so the motherboard specs aren't very important. I built one recently. A bit of CPU overkill, but otherwise a pretty standard build. You can see the hardware list here:
http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/58-Building-a-NAS.html
olaf · 2012-11-29
"So, when you combine XHP with HipHop PHP you can start to imagine that the performance penalty would be a lot less than 75% and it becomes a viable approach."
http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/54-A-quick-look-at-XHP.html
smharris65 · 2011-08-10
Or another idea that doesn't require frameworks:
http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/38-The-no-framework-PHP-MVC-framework…
tszming · 2011-02-18
Old but still true (by the the creator of PHP): http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/38-The-no-framework-PHP-MVC-framework…
jolie · 2010-02-10
See also: Rasmus Lerdorf's discussion of XHP: http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/54-A-quick-look-at-XHP.html
"...when you combine XHP with HipHop PHP you can start to imagine that the performance penalty would be a lot less than 75% and it becomes a viable approach. Of course, this also means that if you are unable to run HipHop you probably want to think a bit and run some tests before adopting this."
illumen · 2010-01-11
This essay from Rasmus is interesting:
http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/38-The-no-framework-PHP-MVC-framework…
In a way php is a framework.
acatton · 2021-10-13
I'm not affiliated with them in any way, but historically, Online.net (now rebranded as "Scaleway") has always been the main competitor of OVH in France. They were known for their "Dedibox" when I was younger.
OVH kinda won because their VPS pricing was always dirt-cheap compared to the cheap dedicated servers provided by Online.net/Scaleway. Since then OVH VPSes got expensive, and Scaleway started offering cheap VPSes, the prices got aligned. I know a few people who used to be OVH-fanboys and they all migrated to Scaleway and Vultr the last 4 years.
But I agree, the competition for unmetered reliable VPSes is getting thinner and thinner… People are even started to consider metered VPS solutions like Vultr…
Rasmus Lerdorf (the author of PHP) did an objective non-sponsored comparison[1] in 2019, I'm using IONOS personally, but since then strato.de appeared. (Both are German) I'm thinking about adding another node from them to avoid relying on only one vendor.
[1] https://toys.lerdorf.com/low-cost-vps-testing
paulcarroty · 2020-07-05