Tim Chevalier

tim.dreamwidth.org · Personal blog · on HN since 2012

Tim Chevalier is a programming language researcher and Rust contributor who also writes about gender, tolerance, and politics in tech communities.

What HN saysHN links it for his explanations of Rust's research-based design origins, and for his essays on social issues in technical communities, such as Prop 8.
20HN people shared it
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Most-shared posts

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    I know it's not raining.
    4 people · 1 points · first shared 2014 · discussion on HN
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    Ownership types in Rust, and whether they're worth it
    3 people · 1 points · first shared 2013 · discussion on HN
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    Last Exit to Loyalty
    2 people · 101 points · first shared 2015 · 54 comments on HN
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    Against Tolerance
    2 people · 17 points · first shared 2014 · 10 comments on HN
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    1761874
    2 people · first shared 2014
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    Hackers and Firefighters
    1 people · 3 points · first shared 2013 · discussion on HN
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    The Christians and the Pagans: Part 1
    1 people · 3 points · first shared 2015 · discussion on HN
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    1832202
    1 people · first shared 2016
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    1840066
    1 people · first shared 2014

What HN people wrote when they linked it

dannyobrien · 2016-10-07
Yes, worth noting that this was an initial goal of Rust: to use research that was rarely implemented, but established and non-novel among CS academics. See http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1784423.html -- I remember some comment about this being part of the choice of the name, too, but I can't find anything specific or definitive about that.
Argorak · 2014-04-01
Be aware that Prop 8 called for the removal of certain rights from people that they had gained before through a legal process, so "simply" isn't very clear cut. Prop 8 wasn't a mental exercise for those hit by it. This is a good read covering all the complexities behind this "simple" action (not opinion, by the way). http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1844711.html
lsiebert · 2015-05-11
I think, personally, it's important to realize that there are anti-patterns which people use to seem smart, yet which actually waste time, damage relationships, and make you an asshole. Focusing on being technically correct, when it's not germane to the issue at hand. Don't use minor mistakes people make to try to "score points," by being correct about some fiddly little detail. Being intelligent is not about getting the high score on a technicality. It's about the real issues. Another example: Don't mansplain. Talk to people as if there are equals, not as if you are the ultimate authority, and engage with them. Talk to people, not at people. The person you are talking to may well know more than you. Even if they don't, they are worthy of respect, and giving them that respect will make it easier to communicate with them, and your goal in opening your mouth should be communicating, not enjoying the sound of your own voice. This is especially important to watch for, because of largely unconscious biases that culture gives us, when you talk to women, non native english speakers, and cultural and ethnic minorities, even if cultural minority means: "person who isn't from my state," or "guy who is older and in a suit," That person who isn't from your state may be a celebrated professor in Ohio doing ground breaking research. That old person may have been there when they invented what you are talking about. see http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1890351.html for more.
DonHopkins · 2014-04-25
Is Gerv Markham the person who ironically claims to be "Hacking for Christ [1]", a religious leader who preached love and acceptance instead of hatred and discrimination [2]? The same Gerv who posted an anti-gay-marriage petition to his blog [3] that was syndicated to the public Planet Mozilla forum, publicly calling on Mozilla community members to support the Coalition for Marriage [4], a homophobic hate group [5] that endorsed the legal codification of marriage in the UK as "the voluntary union for life of one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others," [6] by distributing misleading gay marriage leaflets [7]? The same Gerv whose bigoted post to Mozilla's public forum ignited a controversy about what kinds of content Mozilla tolerates on its Web properties, and triggered an internal discussion examining the nature and desirability of community standards for inclusion [8], which set the stage for the reaction to the revelation of Brendan Eich's $1000 donation in support of Proposition 8 [9], which eventually led to his ignoble resignation as CEO of Mozilla [10], and earned him the humiliating endorsement of support and call to arms from Eric Raymond, who threw down the gauntlet by proclaiming: "Then I think it is now the duty of every friend of free speech and every enemy of political bullying to pledge not only to donate $1000 to the next anti-gay-marriage initiative to come along, but to say publicly that they have done so as a protest against bullying."…
brundolf · 2021-04-22
It's had various adjacent meanings over the years (and I may have embellished a little bit in my original interpretation), but here's one explanation which isn't far off: https://tim.dreamwidth.org/1784423.html > Also, calling Rust a research language is funny to me because -- as its name reflects -- we've tried hard to avoid incorporating new technology into it. We haven't always succeeded at failing to be novel, but we have a rule of thumb of not including any ideas in the language that are new as of the past ten years of programming language research. The field of programming language is full of old technology that hasn't been put to use in solving problems that it's exactly suited for. The goals with Rust were to avoid reinventing wheels, and see what the past had to teach us.
macrael · 2017-08-08
I haven't finished this because it is very long, but it is good. Do you believe in the paradox of tolerance? http://tim.dreamwidth.org/2035407.html
BrendanEich · 2016-09-27
You made a false statement about me. Have the decency to admit it instead of doubling down. Obviously I didn't get appointed CEO with a plan to leave Mozilla as quickly as I did. This does not mean I was "forced". I resigned, I've said this many times on HN and of course, at the time, on my blog and in a message to Mozilla employees. That my sole official statement is open to interpretation is industry-standard, and its being vague does not give you license to make stuff up. No "staff" made my prior "pilicital donations" more widely known. Tim Chevalier had already quit Mozilla in 2013 (see https://tim.dreamwidth.org/1832202.html). Your typo and the easily falsified reference to Tim demonstrate that you are phoning it in. Up your game or give it a rest.
floody-berry · 2014-06-15
A view they expressed six years ago, have not rescinded or clarified, and, oddly enough, is largely supported by their political donations going back 20 years [1]. [1] http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1845008.html
sanxiyn · 2014-04-02
I must correct you as a matter of fact. "We're talking about a total of roughly $10,000 of donations over a period of 19 years, between 1991 and 2010. The man isn't being vilified over one donation." http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1845008.html
joedrew · 2014-03-24
No, but the hostile workplace environment that's (apparently) already there will probably not be helped by this move. http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1840066.html Edit: A more descriptive link: http://tim.dreamwidth.org/1761874.html

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