Tech Emails
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Tech Emails is a Substack that publishes internal emails and messages from tech companies, often from court cases and legal filings.
What HN saysHN commenters enjoy the archive of internal emails, citing Bill Gates on Movie Maker and Apple's iMessage exchange, though one dislikes the Substack's tone.
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- 1Bill Gates tries to install Movie Maker13 people · 103 points · first shared 2023 · 38 comments on HN
- 2Internal Apple emails discussing iMessage for Android (2013)6 people · 3 points · first shared 2022 · 2 comments on HN
- 3Sergey Brin: “Irate Call from Steve Jobs”4 people · 75 points · first shared 2023 · 36 comments on HN
- 4Instagram Cofounder on Mark Zuckerberg4 people · 6 points · first shared 2023 · 2 comments on HN
- 5Internal Tech Emails4 people · 1 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 6Zuckerberg and Peter Thiel on Facebook, Millenials, and Predictions for 20303 people · 167 points · first shared 2024 · 149 comments on HN
- 7Elon Musk's Twitter Texts with Jack Dorsey3 people · 4 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 8Mark Zuckerberg: “VR/AR strategy” (2015)3 people · 3 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 9Mark Zuckerberg: “Please Resign” (2010)2 people · 77 points · first shared 2023 · 56 comments on HN
- 10Internal tech emails: Mark Zuckerberg and Snapchat2 people · 6 points · first shared 2025 · discussion on HN
- 11Sam Altman's old plan to regulate AI2 people · 5 points · first shared 2024 · 1 comments on HN
- 12Bill Gates: "I'm literally losing sleep over Java"2 people · 5 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 13Google engineer: AI is a serious risk to our business2 people · 5 points · first shared 2024 · discussion on HN
- 14Steve Jobs emails Bill Gates (1998)2 people · 3 points · first shared 2023 · 1 comments on HN
- 15The Tech Emails Library: internal tech industry emails2 people · 2 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
seeknotfind · 2023-07-18
There is more where that came from. I love their site: https://www.techemails.com/
slater · 2024-12-15
Only if you can stomach "we're not a nazi bar, ok??" substack:
https://www.techemails.com/
azeemba · 2024-12-15
They are different court cases, usually popularized by techemails (https://www.techemails.com/)
crop_rotation · 2024-09-01
The funny thing is at one point the bureaucracy becomes so big that even BillG shouting couldn't get anything done. One great example is his mail on Movie Maker being dysfunctional and in response several VPs playing musical chairs saying not my problem. Once you hire enough of them, there is no way out. BillG might care about Movie Maker but a random VP cares about his own fiefdom.
https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker
softwaredoug · 2023-01-03
Love these tech emails. Flash forward to 2013 and you can see some historic breadcrumbs about Safari and Chrome in this exchange
https://www.techemails.com/p/imessage-for-android
bhawks · 2023-04-05
The real reality distortion field is that folks believe that Apple (or Steve Jobs) is somehow benevolently pro-user, almost to an extent of sacrificing itself for the users benefit. This never was true, Apple is a company like every other company and it views their customers are simply revenue streams.
Apple's pro-user perception is an (amazing) marketing campaign.
Would a pro-user company use it's monopoly position to raise eBook prices 20-30% and simultaneously eliminate any competition in the eBook space, on the backs of their users? Apple did exactly this, directed explicitly by Steve Jobs and was forced to pay nearly half a billion dollars and be found guilty of violating antitrust law.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Apple_Inc.
https://www.techemails.com/p/ibooks-is-going-to-be-the-only-bookstore-…
Apple's priority is Apple - and that is the only priority. This is a perfectly reasonable thing too, they are not running a charity. They often build pretty good products, but I think folks are doing themselves a disservice to believe that Apple maintains some kind of user focus moral high ground. They want the dollars in your pocket, and if they can get more of them by acting against you they will do it if they think it's unlikely they will be called out on it.
fragmede · 2026-03-30
Bill Gates couldn't get it done.
https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker
ChrisArchitect · 2026-02-01
Associated post: https://www.techemails.com/p/the-fate-of-civilization-is-at-stake
romanhn · 2026-01-07
I assume this is the email you mean: https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker. His frustration is palpable.
chaseadam17 · 2025-10-11
If you read Thiel’s internal emails with Mark Zuckerberg, it’s clear he thinks a lot about public perception and how to frame tech to the masses.
The antichrist stuff strikes me as a debate tactic. Public sentiment has been trending toward, “maybe tech is kinda bad” so to shift the frame, Thiel says something extreme he knows will get headlines like, “if you regulate tech you might be the antichrist.” He also sprinkles in “or maybe there’s a 1% chance tech kills everyone” to deflate tech criticism from the other angle.
My 2c is that most tech is actually good and 90% of public disdain comes from social media and phone addiction (Thiel apparently limits his kid to one hour of screen time per week) and that because social media’s downsides caught nearly everyone by surprise we’re overcorrecting with AI safety stuff.
https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerberg-peter-thiel-millennials
ceejayoz · 2025-04-18
Not publicly, at least.
They've put some seriously dumb admissions in writing before.
https://www.techemails.com/p/sergey-brin-irate-call-from-steve-jobs
simonsarris · 2025-04-14
Some context for those interested:
https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerberg-instagram-foursquare-pint…
Centigonal · 2025-02-05
There is a real schism in the SV elite community between the "tech right" and Google. You could argue that OpenAI was founded by Sam Altman and Elon Musk to deny Google exclusive access to the GenAI.
"Been thinking a lot about whether it's possible to stop humanity from developing AI. I think the answer is almost definitely not. If it's going to happen anyway, it seems like it would be good for someone other than Google to do it first."
- Altman to Musk, immediately before proposing what became OpenAI ( https://www.techemails.com/p/elon-musk-and-openai )
"OpenAI is on a path of certain failure relative to Google. There obviously needs to be immediate and dramatic action or everyone except for Google will be consigned to irrelevance."
- Musk to Altman, later ( https://www.techemails.com/p/elon-musk-openai-path-of-certain-failure )
sunaookami · 2025-01-26
Someone · 2025-01-20
Possibly “Bill Gates tries to install Movie Maker” (https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker)
g33ky · 2024-12-22
Sometimes they do.
>> zuck pinged me to say "i'm not sure if this is a good idea yet, but i think maybe facebook should buy instagram, what do you think?" [0]
The next conversations also read as if they were happening over lunch, albeit with lawyers whispering approved language into each participant's ear [1]
[0] https://www.techemails.com/p/instagram-cofounder-on-mark-zuckerberg
[1] https://www.threads.net/@techemails/post/C_od8rsvuiO
someperson · 2024-11-20
It's not too crazy of a question since Elon Musk has given public interviews in association with YCombinator [1] [2] (and was a founder in partly YC-associated OpenAI [3]), and the fact he seems to spend his limited time these days posting on X, streaming video games, memeing and presumably lurking on Reddit.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnBQmEqBCY0
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqEo107j-uw
[3] https://www.techemails.com/p/elon-musk-and-openai
theyinwhy · 2024-05-21
If you want to discover truths, 3 hours research seems like a good deal. Anyways, I got you covered. Altman has had a plan for this from the get go: https://www.techemails.com/p/sam-altman-emails-elon-musk
troupo · 2024-05-15
This is like that email where Bill Gates was lambasting his subordinates for the insanity that is Microsoft site: https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker
seattleeng · 2024-05-05
Was gonna say, the email reads similarly to this famous thread about Java (with the old CTO of MS!): https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-im-literally-losing-sleep-over…
Really makes you think about the structure of mega corps and how powerful the “defender’s advantage” is. These giants knowingly sleep on disruption and wait to time their entry, and are generally rewarded. I dont know if its good or bad, it probably depends, but I think the capitalism game devs need some balance tweaks.
kalleboo · 2023-08-23
Apple internal emails from the period have been released as court evidence. They didn't make the decision to create a native SDK until 4 months after the iPhone was released (by this time there was already jailbreak sideloading available) https://nitter.net/techemails/status/1400270458608664577
In another email it seems like before the device was released the need for a native SDK was considered only as a stopgap until HSDPA was fast enough to make web apps good enough (the original iPhone was EDGE only) https://www.techemails.com/p/scott-forstall-emails-steve-jobs
adamscybot · 2023-08-06
Interesting internal comms along these lines from 2013: https://www.techemails.com/p/imessage-for-android
umanwizard · 2023-07-09
Non-Threads link: https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerberg-facebook-move-faster
B1FF_PSUVM · 2023-06-11
I rabbit-holed to the 2005 "irate call" from Steve Jobs: https://www.techemails.com/p/sergey-brin-irate-call-from-steve-jobs
Does anyone know who was the REDACTED browser expert being recruited by Google?
andrewfromx · 2023-03-20
This makes me think of https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerberg-please-resign email! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35222192
Is this a leak from Amazon?
Eisenstein · 2023-03-20
If you are unsure of what Zuck's playbook is, just read it:
* https://www.techemails.com/p/mark-zuckerberg-vr-ar-strategy
ly3xqhl8g9 · 2023-01-16
Link to the HTML page: https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker
Looking forward to read by 2040 how absolutely insane we were to share screenshots of text in a 2x2 layout with continuation in "replies" and login pop-ups on characters-constricted platforms.
Beltalowda · 2023-01-05
Example from the same site: https://www.techemails.com/p/sergey-brin-irate-call-from-steve-jobs
Personally, I'd struggle to not capitalize things. It's just automatic.
I do believe there was a bit of a fashion to not capitalize things for a while too; I remember some people doing it on the interwebz.
rs186 · 2025-11-03
I used to always think like that and try to come up with these excuses.
Until I read the story about how Steve Jobs was mad about the fact that Mac was slow to start and asked teams to fix it. Surprise, they fixed it.
And it's not like nobody could say anything at Microsoft. Someone on HN posted this email (originally from a different website):
https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-movie-maker
However, my guess is that this email got nowhere, because the experience of using Windows isn't so different decades later.
What this means is that 1) Microsoft is first and foremost a business oriented company, and what matters to them most is feature set, compatibility, support etc. As long as things mostly work, it's fine. Usability is at the bottom of the list. 2) Windows is just not important to Microsoft any more.
I bet that Satya Nadella has grumbles about bugs and ads in Windows 11, and likely has run into this specific bug first hand. But when he decides that "ads revenue trumps everything" and "these are just small bugs that don't really matter", he immediately forgets about it all.