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Siderea

siderea.livejournal.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2013

Siderea is a LiveJournal writer who posts long essays on social class, software, organizations, and social dynamics.

What HN saysHN commenters recommend her essays, citing 'What Software is Made Of', the class series, and 'The Asshole Filter' as insightful and worth reading.
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Most-shared posts

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    Classism in America
    9 people · 314 points · first shared 2016 · 333 comments on HN
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    The Asshole Filter
    8 people · 7 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
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    What software is made of
    7 people · 80 points · first shared 2015 · 23 comments on HN
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    What Software is Made of
    2 people · 1 points · first shared 2015 · discussion on HN
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    The Archipelago of Weird (2005)
    1 people · 12 points · first shared 2014 · 3 comments on HN
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    A Two-Level Attitude
    1 people · 2 points · first shared 2015 · discussion on HN
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    Where Geek Girls Come From
    1 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · 1 comments on HN
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    Where Geek Girls Come From
    1 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
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    The Value of College
    1 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
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    Chocolate Ice Cream
    1 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
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    One Year On: Writing for My Supper
    1 people · 1 points · first shared 2015 · discussion on HN
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    Sibylla Bostoniensis - One Thought on Bullying
    1 people · 1 points · first shared 2013 · discussion on HN

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fwip · 2020-08-17
I'm reminded of Siderea's excellent essay: "What Software is Made Of" https://siderea.livejournal.com/1241996.html > A computer program is a specification of the behaviors of an inanimate object. And since inanimate objects, definitionally, do not have behaviors of their own, every single one of those behaviors specified in a computer program – and every single aspect of every one of those behaviors – has to be deliberately chosen and imbued into the object by code. Every single behavior, at every level of abstraction, represents a decision as to what the program is to do in that moment being described. (Yes, the page is ugly. The words are worth it, or copy-paste into your favorite editor).
ashtonkem · 2020-04-30
The first link in that blog, siderea[0] is exactly where I first learned about social class. Definitely worth a read. [0] https://siderea.livejournal.com/1260265.html?format=light
quanticle · 2019-08-30
This may sound crazy, but I'm OK with a request falling through the cracks if it was not important enough for the requester to follow up with me. This sounds great in theory, but in practice it turns into an asshole filter (https://siderea.livejournal.com/1230660.html). In other words, what you've just done is create a set of incentives that reward the most obnoxious people with your attention, and starve those who politely wait. In time, those who politely wait will write you off as a flake, and then you'll wonder why everyone who contacts you obnoxiously sends three e-mails, four slack pings and an after hours text message for good measure.
henrikschroder · 2017-01-25
Your story is another fantastic example of how social class is culture, and that money alone isn't enough to advance from one social class to the next, you have to be able to put on the performance of the higher class as well, which is something you simply have to learn. I highly recommend this piece about social class in the US: http://siderea.livejournal.com/1260265.html?format=light
Nav_Panel · 2017-11-17
This "theory of jerkodynamics" as you call it was actually fleshed out in this great post: http://siderea.livejournal.com/1230660.html > ...If you unwittingly have been repelling non-assholes, you will get the impression that everyone is an asshole, because you're still surrounded by plenty of people, but everyone left – that is everyone you come into contact with – is, in fact, an asshole. > ...An asshole filter is a situation one creates that causes non-assholes to reduce contact with you at a disproportionate rate (like at all) than assholes... > ...An asshole filter happens when you publicly promulgate a straitened contact boundary and then don't enforce it; or worse, reward the people who transgress it... It goes on to frame "jerk-ness" in terms of "transgressiveness": > The concept of transgressiveness is one of the most powerful lenses I know with which to look at people's behavior – possibly because it is is a perspective so absent from our culture. It is a phenomenon that is real, but for which we have no words – except "asshole". When we call someone an asshole, pragmatically speaking what we're usually trying to express is that that person transgresses others' boundaries. We might also say, if asked to explain, that the person so described is selfish, in that they want to get their way even (or especially) at the expense of others; we might describe them as rude or disrespectful, meaning that their conduct shows contempt for others' boundaries.
Nemi · 2021-08-19
This post on social mobility. It really made me think about where I came from and how different it is from my wife and why we are comfortable in different situations. More specifically, the post explains the difference in Social Class and Working Class and how we often conflate those two things when in discussion. We often talk about “lower”, “middle” and “upper” classes, but the author proposes that those are actually Working Classes and not necessarily related to Social classes. We often migrate one or maybe two social classes higher or lower in our lifetime, but movements more than two rungs is prohibitively difficult. It is an interesting way to look at society. https://siderea.livejournal.com/1260265.html?format=light&fbclid=I…
Symmetry · 2021-06-30
It's the easiest thing in the world to set up an Asshole Filter where you only get to interact with people who are willing to transgress the boundaries you set. https://siderea.livejournal.com/1230660.html Now, sophisticated consumers of minimum requirements will know that these aren't necessarily meant to be taken seriously and that ignoring them isn't really transgressing boundaries. But that's still filtering out a lot of people from different backgrounds, inexperienced people, and literal minded people.
saint_fiasco · 2018-05-09
It puts a damper on attention in general, but the attention that is less dampened is precisely the unwanted attention. Think about it. A considerate well intentioned person might mistakenly overcompensate and give too little attention to female colleagues, while an inconsiderate person who doesn't care about gender politics will keep doing what they were doing all along. The result is that the ratio of unwanted/wanted attention goes up, even as total attention goes down. This general principle is called "the asshole filter"[1] and it applies to all sorts of social interactions, not just sexual harassment. [1]http://siderea.livejournal.com/1230660.html
trevmckendrick · 2017-10-05
"Class" http://siderea.livejournal.com/1260265.html?format=light or a Slate Star Codex summary: "Staying Class" http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/01/30/staying-classy/ About the differences between economic class and social class. An example question to consider: why are electricians and plumbers less respected than university professors even though they often make far more money?
panic · 2016-10-10
There's a distinction to be made between economic class and social class: http://siderea.livejournal.com/1260265.html?format=light
imiric · 2015-11-06
As pointed out in the article's comments, this[1] is a more readable version. [1]: http://siderea.livejournal.com/1241996.html?format=light
derefr · 2018-07-30
Sorry, I learned the term from this essay (https://siderea.livejournal.com/1159765.html) and assumed it was a correct usage. To be clear, though, while moving to a new society will cause quite gradual, passive assimilation, I wasn’t really talking about that case. In such cases, you still tend to think of your old community as “your community”, and might e.g. seek out an association of expats from your old society to hang out with, since you still share their mores. But moving to a university, or joining the military, or joining a cult, or going to prison, or marrying into money—these are communities, not societies. They actively “digest” you. In all these cases, you are given new connections who serve as both direct role-models for, and judges of, your current degree of assimilation; and, further, you are usually striving to assimilate as quickly as possible (whether you’re there voluntarily or not) because your lack of cultural awareness is one of the things keeping you back from having status and power in your new community. Would you not call what any/all of these entities do—one of the major roles they perform for their members—enculturation? If not, then it seems that I have misunderstood the term. (Tangent/side note: I didn’t make the connection of prison-as-community-that-assimilates until I was writing this. Isn’t the whole goal of reducing recidivism better expressed as “reducing the potential for prison to serve as an enculturating/assimilating force upon…
yummyfajitas · 2016-12-23
It's entertaining how far we in the states go in denying we have classes. Some years back a blogger tried to cook up a taxonomy of our class system. Since we don't have words to describe them he adopted archaic Indian terms instead. Brahmins are the NY/CA elite, Vaisyas are the Trump voting worker caste, etc. https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/castes-of-united… Other writers have recognized and described it too: http://siderea.livejournal.com/1260265.html Even our very own Michael O. Church: https://www.meetup.com/Philadelphia-Political-Agnostics/messages/board… I'm with Mz on this - we should start explicitly recognizing our caste system. It's been helpful to me; once I figured out our castes and where I live in it, suddenly a lot of things clicked into place. For example, why do so many people not recognize me as white? It's because I don't give off the cultural signals of being upper caste (Brahmin in Moldbug's taxonomy) but I'm solidly within Brahim professional and social circles. Given these mismatched signals, Kashmiri or Argentinian seems like the most plausible hypothesis.

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