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Redline Smalltalk
redline.st · Company blog · on HN since 2011
Redline Smalltalk is the site for a Smalltalk implementation that runs on the JVM, with posts on bytecode and Java integration.
What HN saysHN commenters point to it as evidence that Smalltalk has been ported to the JVM, though one is unsure of its current status.
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- 1Smalltalk on the JVM11 people · 236 points · first shared 2011 · 23 comments on HN
- 2Why Smalltalk on the JVM?2 people · 4 points · first shared 2011 · discussion on HN
- 3Adopt a Class2 people · 3 points · first shared 2011 · discussion on HN
- 4Smalltalk and JetBrains Intellij1 people · 17 points · first shared 2011 · 7 comments on HN
- 5Please Help Smalltalk1 people · 4 points · first shared 2012 · discussion on HN
- 6Emitting JVM Bytecodes1 people · 3 points · first shared 2012 · discussion on HN
- 7Automatic java class integration1 people · first shared 2012
- 8Is it smalltalk1 people · first shared 2013
- 9Duke large 404.png1 people · first shared 2012
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masukomi · 2020-01-24
two things. First though, please google before getting all dismissive.
1) YES smalltalk _has_ been ported to the JVM https://www.redline.st/ AND you can also run it in the GraalVM https://www.graalvm.org/
2) I'm pretty sure the initial JVM was a clone / extension of a Smalltalk VM. Having trouble googling the details, but while you may be having trouble getting it to work on your particular Windows install you might want to consider that you're possibly ignorant of the fact that the Smalltalk VM is not only one of the best available but battle tested over decades.
I would guess that what you're seeing is a particular windows issue that has nothing to do with the VM itself.
e12e · 2014-02-02
There's also redline smalltak for the jvm, but I'm not entirely sure of it's status:
http://www.redline.st
[edit: on the subject of performance, and interesting Smalltalks, I'd also recommend checking out Gemstone GLASS:
http://seaside.gemtalksystems.com/
They also made "maglev" ruby:
http://maglev.github.io/
]
jecel · 2020-05-31
Not having used them myself, I can't comment on the quality of the JVM based Smalltalks:
http://www.redline.st/
https://github.com/hpi-swa/trufflesqueak
Another project that I watched without trying myself was for .NET:
https://refactory.com/sharp-smalltalk/
There was also Essence# but it doesn't seem active.
bromagosa · 2013-10-03
I've worked with Smalltalk for four years now, and for what you write, I guess you haven't been keeping up with our progresses. Take a look at:
http://amber-lang.net
http://www.redline.st/
http://pharo-project.org
Saying Smalltalk hasn't kept up with computing progress is an old argument that doesn't make sense anymore.
jamesladd · 2012-10-05
We (http://redline.st) asked them for Smalltalk support, and they provided good assistance in us making our own plugin. Maybe you can try that approach yourself?
recursive68 · 2012-04-18
There is a "Clojure for Smalltalk" being developed, if you mean running on a JVM: http://www.redline.st/
james_ladd · 2011-12-11
I use Smalltalk so this never comes up.
http://redline.st
fusiongyro · 2013-10-02
That isn't true.
http://www.redline.st/discover/is-it-smalltalk.html
spooneybarger · 2012-11-26
I'd never noticed that it looked like that at a smaller size.
As you can see; he isn't: http://www.redline.st/image/duke-large-404.png
Gives me more impetus to come up with a better logo though.
jeffheon · 2012-11-26
Here's a little blog post about Redline Java interop
http://www.redline.st/blog/2012/11/20/automatic-java-class-integration…
Short story:
import: 'com.friendly.Greeting' as: 'Greeter'.
Greeter new say.