Raccoon Onyxbits
raccoon.onyxbits.de · Personal blog · on HN since 2017
The developer of Raccoon, an open source tool for downloading Android apps from Google Play without a Google account on the phone, writes about it.
What HN saysHN links it for the Raccoon privacy tool and the 'open source does not mean free support' posts, which sparked debate about charging for bug reports.
22HN people shared it
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Most-shared posts
- 1Show HN: Raccoon – Getting into Play without letting Google get into your phone6 people · 12 points · first shared 2017 · 3 comments on HN
- 2Open Source does not mean “Includes Free Support”4 people · 480 points · first shared 2020 · 247 comments on HN
- 3The aftermath of “No, 'Open Source' does not mean 'Includes Free Support'”3 people · 33 points · first shared 2020 · 17 comments on HN
- 4It's going to cost four figures2 people · 32 points · first shared 2021 · 5 comments on HN
- 5Implementing a single class Java parser for semantic versioning2 people · 5 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 6Tales from the spam filter of an Android app developer1 people · 63 points · first shared 2019 · 39 comments on HN
- 7Why SARS-CoV-2 Bluetooth contact tracing apps are a tremendously stupid idea1 people · 27 points · first shared 2020 · 28 comments on HN
- 8Can TikTok be banned from US based Android devices?1 people · 19 points · first shared 2020 · 33 comments on HN
- 9Twitter no longer allowing links to your Mastodon profile? Let's bypass that1 people · 18 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 10Mastodon Is Bound to Fail1 people · 11 points · first shared 2021 · 5 comments on HN
- 11Running Java programs directly on Android (without creating an app)1 people · 3 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
- 12By the way, Cookie consent banners are a joke1 people · 3 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 13The way to end user tracking in apps once and for all1 people · 2 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 14Paypal Leaving Libra Is a Relief1 people · 2 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 15Look Up on Play It's a Scam It's a Rip Off It's a Super Shenanigan1 people · 2 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
yyyk · 2023-05-26
> the only way to get apps from the Google Play Store
There's also Raccon:
https://raccoon.onyxbits.de/
kragen · 2022-03-07
https://raccoon.onyxbits.de/blog/reactions-bugreport-free-support/ was his followup. His software must be awfully solid if he never learns about real, important bugs from random non-paying users.
davidgerard · 2022-03-06
m463 · 2020-12-25
Fun writing. Yeah, kind of strange to charge for a bug.
If I were doing it, I would probably have a 'bug dropbox' but I haven't run a one-person open-source project and met reality head-on.
I read his other articles, and loved this quote:
Back in the day, multitasking on Windows meant: being able to crash two programs simultaneously.
https://raccoon.onyxbits.de/blog/why-not-use-github/
dustball15 · 2020-04-13
Running Raccoon as a one one show:
https://raccoon.onyxbits.de/
It's a privacy solution that allows you to download apps from Google Play without having Big G claw into your smartphone.
The tech stack is quite extensive: Java for the application itself (Eclipse toolchain), LAMP for hosting the billing system (build on php, bootstrap and fatfree) and the website (build with Hugo using bootstrap).
COVID-19 hit hard. Even though I see more downloads, people seem to have become cautious with spending money.
deep_attention · 2017-02-12
Or you can just install Yalp Store from F-Droid (https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=com.github.yeriomin.yalpst… and download the apps from the Google Play Store directly to your device. You can also easily update your apps with Yalp Store.
Another possibility is to use the Java software Raccoon on your Desktop, available here: http://raccoon.onyxbits.de/
bluegopher2 · 2022-02-27
Once you take money, you are running a business (even if you mislabel the money as a donation). That means having to register with the tax authorities, adding a ton of accounting related overhead and very likely spending money on all of that overhead (e.g. when hiring an accountant to offload some of the overhead).
At some point you realize that you have to ramp your business up, just so it pays for the cost of accepting money. Then it's no longer a side project.
I'll just leave this here:
https://raccoon.onyxbits.de/blog/software-development-cost/
forapurpose · 2017-10-19
I know of many such stores. Usually they are proxies: They download the app from the Google store, you download it from the proxy. The question is, how do you know they haven't inserted malware? It seems like a very obvious vector for attack. You could authenticate signatures or hashes, but where do you find the authoritative signature/hash?
For those interested in taking a shot at using these services, here are a couple of the more credible ones I've run into in the last couple years (I haven't used them in at least 6 months, so possibly their status has changed). Use at your own risk!:
- APK Downloader: By someone on XDA-forums, a leading Android dev community. It comes in several versions and forks by other XDA members, and for several platforms. I don't have time to sort them out now, sorry. Beware of malware-infected hosted implementations.
http://codekiem.com/2014/08/07/official-apk-downloader-v2-download-apk… / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515021
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809458
https://github.com/Lekensteyn/apk-downloader
- Racoon: Desktop OS client for Play Store (along with its Github and XDA links)
http://raccoon.onyxbits.de / https://github.com/onyxbits/Raccoon / https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772436