Prolost
prolost.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2010
Prolost is Stu Maschwitz's blog on filmmaking, color, video and camera technology, including Apple's iPhone video features.
What HN saysCommenters value it for clear technical explanations of log video, HDR on non-HDR displays and memory colors, and for DSLR filmmaking advice.
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- 1Apple’s “Extended Dynamic Range” Brings HDR to Non-HDR Displays11 people · 334 points · first shared 2020 · 209 comments on HN
- 2Your New TV Ruins Movies (about LCDs and motion smoothing)4 people · 67 points · first shared 2011 · 35 comments on HN
- 3iPhone 7 Plus Depth Effect Is Legit4 people · 9 points · first shared 2016 · 2 comments on HN
- 4Log is the "Pro" in iPhone 15 Pro4 people · 2 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 5Why Hollywood is going 'Teal and Orange': Memory Colors3 people · 5 points · first shared 2010 · 1 comments on HN
- 6Raw is Not Magic (2016)3 people · 1 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 7Apple’s “Let Loose” iPad event was shot on iPhone with Panavision lenses2 people · 54 points · first shared 2024 · 83 comments on HN
- 8What Does and Doesn't Matter about Apple Shooting Their October Event on iPhone2 people · 4 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 9My App Will Harm You Physically, Using Math2 people · 3 points · first shared 2025 · 1 comments on HN
- 10Homepage2 people · first shared 2010
- 11Skate Warrior 1992, 1999, 20201 people · 183 points · first shared 2020 · 17 comments on HN
- 12Dropbox Etiquette1 people · 7 points · first shared 2011 · 2 comments on HN
- 13Your New TV Ruins Movies1 people · 7 points · first shared 2011 · 1 comments on HN
- 14M1 Max MacBook Pro Long-Term Report1 people · 4 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 15How to Take Good Photos for Under $1,0001 people · 3 points · first shared 2013 · 1 comments on HN
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jasongullickson · 2010-04-13
Doesn't look like he's talking about it at the moment, but Stu over at ProLost (author of the great indie film manual "The DV Rebel's Guide") covers the DSLR-for-filmmaking subject a lot and has lots of good technical (and technique) info if you're into that sort of thing:
http://prolost.com/
YesBox · 2025-03-26
This lovely color correction article was posted on HN years ago: https://prolost.com/blog/2010/2/15/memory-colors.html
mortenjorck · 2023-11-07
I previously had a rudimentary understanding of log, but the author's other recent piece devoted to it in the context of the iPhone 15 pro (https://prolost.com/blog/applelog) gave me a much better appreciation of its importance to professional-looking video. From that article:
> But with this iPhone 15 Pro Max footage shot in Apple Log, I can recover all the detail — or just let it overexpose gracefully into this ACES output transform, for a smooth, film-like look. This soft highlight rolloff in the log-to-video conversion is called a “shoulder” in film, describing the upper part of the classic s-curve. A nice shoulder for your highlights is a big part of what makes footage look “pro” — especially when your grading happens underneath it.
JohnBooty · 2021-01-30
Here's the best practical demonstration I've found; it's about as well as can be accomplished considering we're talking about looking at pictures of HDR on non-HDR displays.
https://prolost.com/blog/edr
It's decidedly not a gimmick. However, it not exactly magic either, and to extent it really relies on the effectiveness of your display's local dimming and maximum brightness.
If you're running your display at 50% brightness, then yeah... it's got "more brightness to spare" when it's time to render those extra brighter-than-bright areas.
If you're running your display at max 100% brightness already then... well, there's nowhere to go from there.
I briefly played around with my 2018 iPad Pro, which has an EDR display. I watched the Apple TV movie "Greyhound" with Tom Hanks. That movie appears to have been shot as something of a demo for HDR rendering. Lots of shots inside the dark, cramped ships, with INTENSELY bright light coming in thru the windows.
Watching it on the iPad, the windows were WAY brighter than the rest of the ship interior. But, I could still see everything in the ship interior. It wasn't lost in the shadows. Watching it on my nice Dell IPS monitor, it looked totally different. The portholes were brighter than the ship interior, but not by much. It just looked like a normal movie.
It was a very convincing demo. However, perhaps hilariously, I thought it looked better in non-HDR on my Dell. Nonetheless, it was an impressive tech demo.
anigbrowl · 2012-09-20
are there specific products you would point me at, community film groups - are they any good? Just basic 'mistakes not to make' list would be very appreciated - top of the list is which camera to (not) get and whether OSS can handle non linear editing
I personally like Canon DSLRs. The current Digital Rebel series produce nice images in combination with a tool like Magic Lantern for well under $100. If you can afford a 7D or %d the image quality is marginally better, the ergonomics significantly so. But products from Nikon are also good, as are the Micro 4:3 units from Panasonic. Sony's I'm not familiar with, but have heard others speak highly of them.
Certainly check out film production courses at commnity colleges in your area - you may be able to learn a great deal for relatively few $, not to mention making food contacts. Online, good resources are http://prolost.com/ and http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/ are two of the best resources, but also check http://rebelsguide.com/forum/. Stu Maschwitz's 'Rebel's Guide' is a really excellent starting point in book form, I wish I'd had it when I got started: http://astore.amazon.com/prolost-20/detail/0321413644 The Guerilla Filmmaker's handbook is also excellent: http://www.amazon.com/Guerilla-Makers-Handbook-American-Edition/dp/082… Join a film library or filmmaker society if you are a decent sized city, as you'll save a fortune on seeking out and buying books on technique, financing, contracts, etc.
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astrange · 2025-04-17
The screen is literally getting darker so the HDR video will appear to have more contrast.
https://prolost.com/blog/edr
lxgr · 2025-04-17
For more information on the different ways to encode HDR content in images, together with examples for each, I've found this article very useful: https://gregbenzphotography.com/hdr/
And this explains how Apple implements this feature on non-OLED/mini-LED screens (and, in my observation, at least still to some extent even on mini-LED): https://prolost.com/blog/edr
maxglute · 2024-05-10
I find practice deceptive as marketting value, but this is interesting read from technical side.
>Feel free to re-read this: What Does and Doesn't Matter about Apple Shooting their October Event on iPhone 15 Pro Max — but in short, the fact that Apple can drop an iPhone into an otherwise-unaltered professional film production and match the look of their previous videos without anyone even noticing is meaningful.
https://prolost.com/blog/scarybts
GeekyBear · 2023-11-07
> As they noted, the camera, itself, was almost irrelevant (except for that ProRes Log thing).
As mentioned, the "ProRes Log thing" was the single most important feature for enabling professional use cases.
A prior post from the same author explaining the whole "ProRes Log thing" in more detail:
https://prolost.com/blog/applelog
greggsy · 2023-10-13
There are a few really compet ‘pro’ features now:
https://prolost.com/blog/applelog
Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37840503
macintux · 2023-10-11
Comparison of RAW and LOG on the same site: https://prolost.com/blog/rawvslog
BlueTemplar · 2023-10-11
Well, except that log (as well as almost every other format : "gamma" refers to the exponent of a power function !) is the opposite of raw : raw is focused on fidelity to the number of photons, log and others on fidelity to how the (human) eye reacts to these photons :
https://prolost.com/blog/rawvslog/
krackers · 2023-06-19
Yes that's essentially how I understand it: hardware-wise HDR is basically "a really bright screen" coupled with good black levels. To ensure that you always get the HDR effect at any brightness, you need to reserve some headroom. It should be noted that you probably could not sustain this peak brightness for long anyhow due to thermal issues.
You might be interested in reading https://prolost.com/blog/edr which explains in more detail.
deergomoo · 2023-06-19
This is actually super interesting: for displays that can get bright enough for HDR content, but do not have self-illuminated pixels/local dimming zones/any other mechanism to display very dark content alongside very bright (like, say, most modern iPad and Mac screens), this is exactly what is happening.
macOS/iPadOS cranks the backlight brightness up but then adds a black filter to the non-bright content to sim it back to “normal” levels.
https://prolost.com/blog/edr
NathanielK · 2023-05-07
> but screens emit light, and maximum contrast puts additional strain on the eyes.
That's just a problem with manufacturers putting displays with high dynamic range into devices and not putting decent HDR software implementations in.
Some apple devices are smart about it though. When you open up an HDR video, it cranks the backlight to make those highlights pop, but dims the LCD by lowering the contrast in software. This means high contrast websites don't sear your retinas while your media can still take better advantage of your display.
https://prolost.com/blog/edr
Joeri · 2022-03-09
I am assuming the studio display will support EDR with its 600 nits of peak brightness, so while it may not be hdr, it is not quite sdr either.
For those who don’t know, EDR works like this: when the built-in display of a supported mac is not at full brightness when playing HDR content it will ramp up the brightness to max to make use of the full range of the display for the HDR content while also dimming all non-HDR content to keep it at the same apparent brightness. The effect can be quite dramatic if you’re using the display at a low brightness setting, even on a 500 nit 5K iMac. The hdr content looks much brighter than a white finder window.
https://prolost.com/blog/edr
GranPC · 2021-05-01
It's something else; here's the article you were looking for: https://prolost.com/blog/edr
pwrplus1 · 2021-03-03
Author of fountain-mode for Emacs here; this warms my heart to hear :)
Let's also give a shoutout to Stu Maschwitz who created most of the Fountain spec beforehand when it was called Screenplay Markdown: https://prolost.com/blog/2011/8/9/screenplay-markdown.html
fields · 2012-11-26
That really depends. It's completely untrue for, say, TVs:
http://prolost.com/blog/2011/3/28/your-new-tv-ruins-movies.html
chops · 2012-04-25
As excited I am for The Hobbit, I'm also leery of the 48fps. If you've ever noticed the difference between watching movies on a 120Hz/240Hz, it's definitely extremely noticeable and distracting. It makes movies look like reality TV.
Why this is, I don't fully know. The fact that this is filmed at 48 fps (rather than simple interpolating the extra frames) might make it better, but I'll just have to see for myself.
What I do know, is that if watching a film at 48 fps is like watching a typical bluray at 120Hz, I'm going to find it distracting. It really does mess with the "feel" of the movie. Whether it's simply cognitive dissonance or not will take time to determine.
Here's a relevant article from last year that really hits home for me: http://prolost.com/blog/2011/3/28/your-new-tv-ruins-movies.html
mds · 2010-03-15
Here's an alternate explanation for the phenomenon (linked to from the blog post):
http://prolost.com/blog/2010/2/15/memory-colors.html
The origin of the idea is to preserve skin tones and other "memory colors" (stop signs, taxi cabs), regardless of how the rest of the scene is rendered (bright or drab).
So it's not that film colorists are intentionally making everything teal and orange (or actually maybe the lazy ones are now that's it's become something of a cliche.)
JonathonW · 2023-06-19
What you're seeing here is Apple's EDR implementation [1], which, on non-local dimming displays (every Mac display except the M1/M2 14" and 16" MacBook Pros and the Pro Display XDR), works by bumping up the whole display brightness (and adjusting brightness of all non-HDR content downwards) to display colors brighter than standard SRGB white.
So, yeah, both QR codes probably are brighter on your old Pro, if its display brightness is set higher. And, if you adjust display brightness on the Air, you'll see them converge to the same brightness there, too (on my M2 Air, it seems that Apple leaves a little headroom for the HDR "white" to appear a bit brighter than UI white at full brightness; not sure if the M1 Air behaves the same or not as it has an older display).
Displays with local dimming (and OLEDs) can display, in small areas, colors that are brighter than the maximum full-screen brightness. That's where HDR content gets really compelling-- if all you can do is dim the whole screen, you're unlikely to see much of anything that you couldn't do just by bumping up the brightness with SDR content.
[1] https://prolost.com/blog/edr
saagarjha · 2021-01-30