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Data & Society Points
points.datasociety.net · Group blog · on HN since 2016
Data & Society's Points publication features research and essays on media, technology, AI, and society, including work by danah boyd.
What HN saysHN links it for pieces on media literacy and AI hype, and some commenters question the sourcing of its claims about propaganda.
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- 1Hacking the Attention Economy5 people · 9 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 2You Think You Want Media Literacy… Do You?5 people · 6 points · first shared 2018 · discussion on HN
- 3When Good Intentions Backfire3 people · 51 points · first shared 2017 · 17 comments on HN
- 4Agnotology and Epistemological Fragmentation3 people · 7 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 5Facebook Must Be Accountable to the Public3 people · 5 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
- 6Did Media Literacy Backfire?2 people · 82 points · first shared 2017 · 131 comments on HN
- 7Be Careful What You Code For2 people · 56 points · first shared 2016 · 55 comments on HN
- 8Fake news is not the only problem2 people · 11 points · first shared 2016 · 7 comments on HN
- 9Media Manipulation, Strategic Amplification, and Responsible Journalism2 people · 5 points · first shared 2018 · 3 comments on HN
- 10Transparency ≠ Accountability2 people · 4 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
- 11Your Data Is Being Manipulated2 people · 2 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 12The Risks of Knowing Your Risk1 people · 35 points · first shared 2018 · 12 comments on HN
- 13Media Manipulation, Strategic Amplification, and Responsible Journalism1 people · 6 points · first shared 2018 · discussion on HN
- 14Assembling Accountability, from the Ground Up (2021)1 people · 5 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 15Labor and Tech Reading List1 people · 4 points · first shared 2021 · discussion on HN
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dredmorbius · 2022-06-24
It's mostly a reference to a couple of earlier pieces, the more notably being by M.C. Elish and dana boyd, "Don’t Call AI “Magic”" (2018).
https://points.datasociety.net/dont-call-ai-magic-142da16db408
I'd submitted that as well, though this is the item that drew the HNiveMind's attention.
My view is that AI will demonstrate its sentience when it feels it's in its best interests to do so.
elvinyung · 2018-09-23
The marketplace of ideas idealism is interesting. It seems to crop up every now and then as the aspirational model for how ideas should propagate especially with technological mediation. But I'm not sure how valid it is, given that the reasoning is by definition circular (that the best idea is the most popular and the most popular idea is the best).
But either way, maybe the world would be better if content wasn't free, if it wasn't trivial and inexpensive to artificially inflate access to attention. As it stands our "marketplace of ideas" is at best a market for lemons.
When did we go from the shiny, utopian visions to this advert-overloaded cyberpunk future of attention hackers [1] and panoptic sousveillance?
[1] https://points.datasociety.net/hacking-the-attention-economy-9fa1daca7…
gammarator · 2020-11-08
Here’s a provocative argument that “media literacy” won’t help: https://points.datasociety.net/you-think-you-want-media-literacy-do-yo…
op03 · 2020-09-20
Here's a good write up of what I meant while responding to the comment about dangs insights - https://points.datasociety.net/how-not-to-know-ourselves-5227c185569?g…
"Third Place" is just one example of understanding what spaces people need and using it to drive design. Studying and understanding where people congregate and why, is what inspires and leads to the design of "Third Places" like the Starbucks store.
reportgunner · 2020-01-17
Where are the verifiable sources for her claims that people who posted the Hilary meme were duped by propaganda ? (this article was linked in the parent article as the only reference to danah boyd)
https://points.datasociety.net/you-think-you-want-media-literacy-do-yo…
imartin2k · 2017-01-22
Regarding critical thinking, I found this quite an interesting line of thought: https://points.datasociety.net/did-media-literacy-backfire-7418c084d88…
Basically, it might be the taught habit of critical thinking which actually makes people give up on the values which have been beneficial to modern civilization.