Paul Moore
paul.reviews · Personal blog · on HN since 2015
Paul Moore is a security researcher who reviews the security of consumer products, ISPs and police-run services, and writes about password practices.
What HN saysHN commenters cite it as a detailed critique of weak security at TalkTalk and Police CyberAlarm, and for its argument against three-random-words passwords.
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Most-shared posts
- 1Behavioral Profiling: The password you can't change3 people · 231 points · first shared 2015 · 96 comments on HN
- 2CyberAlarm: An independent security review and why you should avoid it3 people · 3 points · first shared 2020 · 1 comments on HN
- 3Value security avoid talktalk3 people · first shared 2015
- 4Passwords: Using 3 Random Words Is a Really Bad Idea (2017)2 people · 43 points · first shared 2018 · 85 comments on HN
- 5Don't let them paste passwords (2017)2 people · 4 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 6Police CyberAlarm: Abysmal security, yet again2 people · 2 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 7The Property Jungle: I'm a security researcher, get me out of here1 people · 37 points · first shared 2015 · 20 comments on HN
- 8Tiffin Tom: Fish, chips and a side of identity theft1 people · 1 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
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ImprovedSilence · 2018-12-02
Some quick googling gave me this:https://paul.reviews/passwords-why-using-3-random-words-is-a-really-ba…
(also good stuff here: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/151165/is-randomly-genera…
It seems the consensus is to use 5-6 words, and following the xkcd trick of 4 may not be enough.
aembleton · 2015-10-26
Paul Moore covered their weak security a year ago [1]. Worth a read. I've always avoided TalkTalk because they keep sending me junk mail reminding me that they offer free broadband if I take out a phone package, etc. It just screams race to the bottom.
1. https://paul.reviews/value-security-avoid-talktalk/
matthews2 · 2022-11-04
Hopefully it's slightly less pathetic than the "Police CyberAlarm".
https://paul.reviews/police-cyberalarm-abysmal-security-yet-again/
https://scottarc.blog/2022/07/04/police-cyberalarm-uses-alarming-crypt…
amluto · 2022-07-04
I admit that, reading the code, I found it challenging to find a severe crypto bug simply because everything is wrong. Even their way of packing the data into a base64 is nonsense. The parser is nonsense. Almost every line of code is wrong. Without more context, I’m not quite convinced that the key is reliably anything other than a constant due to the use of PHP and the failure to validate that the variables in question are initialized.
It’s like the most severe bugs are buried in code that is 100% bug!
edit: the key is a constant. I’m speechless. See https://paul.reviews/cyberalarm-an-independent-security-review-and-why…
Nextgrid · 2022-07-04
Honestly, the cryptography part of it is the least concerning (if it was just that it would be an easy fix). Here's a summary with some screenshots of the code: https://paul.reviews/cyberalarm-an-independent-security-review-and-why…
The entire project is an unsalvageable mess and so is their response - clearly they've outsourced the entire thing to idiots and are trying to cover their ass now that it's been publicized.
mmahemoff · 2016-06-06
That would be useful, but won't solve the problem alone. It's highly likely there were any number of engineers in these companies fuming about poor practice, but lacking management support to prioritise it.
Look at how TalkTalk ignored a security researcher's warnings a year before incurring a major attack. They were also storing in plain-text, available to support staff, and came up with comments like "We're squeaky-clean on security". This is a PR response, not one from the engineers who know what's going wrong.
https://paul.reviews/value-security-avoid-talktalk/
ctz · 2015-10-23
Paul Moore's findings from one year ago: https://paul.reviews/value-security-avoid-talktalk/