Guido Fawkes
order-order.com · Group blog · on HN since 2012
Guido Fawkes (Paul Staines) runs a UK political gossip and news blog covering Westminster scandals, leaks, and media stories.
What HN saysHN links it for UK political stories and leaks. One commenter dismisses it as conspiracy material, and others cite it for specific posts.
31HN people shared it
26linked it in comments
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Most-shared posts
- 1D notice june 7 20134 people · first shared 2013
- 2Byline outs russian troll turns glasgow security guard2 people · first shared 2018
- 3Poll result 86 of readers say sue claire perry guido has instructed lawyers to commence proceedings2 people · first shared 2013
- 4The guardians offshore secrets guardian media group still operates caymans company2 people · first shared 2013
- 5Number 10's Message to Biden Originally Congratulated Trump1 people · 2 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
- 6US-UK Trade Talks Leaked Documents1 people · 2 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 7Spreadsheet capacity limit causes 16k missing positive Coronavirus test results1 people · 2 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
- 8BBC uses old picture to hype Dover backports story1 people · 1 points · first shared 2021 · discussion on HN
- 9Guardian Will Give Your Data to Intelligence Agencies1 people · 1 points · first shared 2013 · discussion on HN
- 10Who’s Backing Who1 people · 1 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 11Bbc panoramas disinformation scoop just photos from twitter parody account1 people · first shared 2024
- 12Mets extraordinary ripa foi refusal1 people · first shared 2015
- 13Cameron we are libertarians1 people · first shared 2013
- 14Homepage1 people · first shared 2017
- 15All hail the latest imf forecasts1 people · first shared 2023
What HN people wrote when they linked it
mike_hearn · 2022-07-11
With respect to the politicians not turning up, it's worth noting that at least some of the candidates for PM are against the Online Safety Bill and want to scrap it. So for them, campaigning to become the next leader may actually be a more useful way to spend time than hearing what they already know.
It appears the OSB has become a victim of incoherent requirements specifications. It's grown enormously during its gestation period and is now trying to do way too much, including things that are self-contradictory. Some politicians recognize this, for example Kemi Badenoch:
https://order-order.com/2022/07/11/watch-badenoch-slams-online-safety-…
but I recall others saying similar things. I just can't find the references right now.
nailer · 2019-09-24
Yes it is. Four extra sitting days: https://order-order.com/2019/08/28/boriss-prorogation-will-shorter-maj…
As you mention, it's a vital time. The democratic mandate from the general public outweighs parliament's attempts to interfere in negotiations. Prorouging provides an excellent mechanism to allow the PM to focus on negotiations that deliver what people voted for.
gadders · 2019-03-06
Yeah, her credibility is a bit shot at the moment. Probably not the best:
https://order-order.com/people/carole-cadwalladr/
rstoj · 2017-11-27
Just checking the references in this article. The offshore tax claim seems to be referenced to "Guido Fawkes" (https://order-order.com/ "Guido Fawkes Blog of plots, rumours and conspiracy") which seems to be a collection of conspiracy articles about all kinds of stuffs, written by this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Staines
oracuk · 2013-07-24
He is (apparently) considering sueing her:
http://order-order.com/2013/07/24/should-guido-sue-claire-perry/
I am conflicted. I never really liked Paul Staines' style but I am somewhat afraid of the impact of Claire Perry on the UK Internet regulations. I have to admit I would love to see him publicise the lack of understanding she has in the Internet that she is working so hard to regulate..
moocowduckquack · 2013-07-24
Don't worry, she did just libel someone who is on the Rupert Murdoch News Corp dollar and who has decided to follow the outcome of his reader poll and sue.
http://order-order.com/2013/07/24/poll-result-86-of-readers-say-sue-cl…
notTptacek · 2013-06-21
UK newspapers have been issued a D-Notice. It's official 'advice' to stop reporting. That's why few news outlets in the UK are following up on the Guardian stories.
http://order-order.com/2013/06/08/d-notice-june-7-2013/
like_any_other · 2026-01-13
> client-journalism it engages in with regard to the Conservative party.
BBC Caught Altering Budget Article to Be More Favourable to Labour - https://order-order.com/2024/11/01/bbc-caught-altering-budget-article-…
When Ivor Caplin, the former Labour MP that, among other things, attacked Musk for talking about Pakistani rape gangs, was arrested for pedophilia [1], this is the article they published - no photo, no name, no party affiliation, and no followup article - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg45y4r0yngo
BBC omits identity of Nigerian murderer from article about how he killed his wife [2,3], making it entirely about "gendered violence" instead. Readers can't make the incorrect inference if you simply withhold information from them.
BBC omits all criticism of Starmer from their reporting on his meeting with Trump [4].
The famous Trump capitol speech splicing: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/03/bbc-report-reveals-bias-do…
When Farage's private bank account was closed due to his politics, the BBC first simply took the bank's word that this was entirely due to financial considerations. When Farage obtained internal documents of that bank, explicitly saying he met financial criteria for an account, but it was closed despite this due to his politics, the BBC issued a correction article trying to imply his politics were merely "also" considered [5].
BBC uses all-white stock photos to warn about obnoxiously loud phone…
repolfx · 2019-01-07
Do you actually work in the City or in the financial industry?
There are many cities in the EU. If London has no advantages other than being in the EU then why is so much financial work done there?
By the way, unlike what many in this thread seem to think, being in the EU is of limited value for business protection. France and Germany via their proxies have been trying to pull financial work out of London for years - the EU Commission already tried to illegally ban Eurozone countries from using the UK for certain types of trading and clearing, and the British government had to sue the EU in its own courts to get the ban lifted (said ban entirely violated all the treaties which explicitly forbid that, and the Commission knew it, which goes to show what kind of government we're talking about here).
Despite these challenges the UK has done very well and not just in finance. In 2018, out of the big western European economies (the UK, France, Germany, Italy) which do you think had some of the best GDP growth?
https://order-order.com/2018/11/09/eu-experiencing-significant-growth-…
Yes, in the November quarterly GDP figures released by Eurostat, they showed the UK did the best. If you believed what you read in the press you'd think the UK economy was about to collapse, but it's not the case.
nonrandomstring · 2024-12-13
The funny thing is that all who enter the realm of politics magically become instant expert "economists".
The UK's Rachel Reeves was suddenly falling over herself to associate any scrap of experience she's had with "economics" [0].
All the actual scientists and hard business decision makers I know try to distance themselves from such jibber-jabber.
[0] https://order-order.com/2024/10/24/rachel-reeves-bank-economist-myth-b…
scarygliders · 2024-03-06
Unfortunately you've been misled by the BBC. Please read this: https://order-order.com/2024/03/05/bbc-panoramas-disinformation-scoop-…
Those AI generated photos are from a Twitter/X parody account @Trump_History45 , not from the Trump campaign as the BBC mistakenly (or misleadingly) claim.
davidhbolton · 2023-02-01
The IMF forecasting accuracy for the UK has been out quite a lot. https://order-order.com/2023/01/31/all-hail-the-latest-imf-forecasts/ "Since 2016 the IMF has consistently underestimated UK GDP growth. Every single year. "
dang · 2021-07-08
Ok, we'll change to that from https://order-order.com/2021/07/07/eu-to-exempt-private-jets-from-jet-… Thanks!
Symbiote · 2021-01-19
I am not insisting you listen to it. I don't listen to it; I prefer to read news rather than listen or watch it.
I do expect anyone who lives in the UK to be aware it exists, including people 10 years older than me.
> An almost comedic interview on the Today Programme this morning had Home Secretary Priti Patel attempting to defend the Government’s new rules on ‘mingling’ ...
https://order-order.com/2020/09/15/mingling-banned-under-draconian-rul…
> Nigel tells the Today programme “it's been an appalling few weeks” for UKIP...
> Radio 4 sources are loudly and widely sharing concerns that Sarah Sands is planning big changes at the Today programme.
> For the first time Guido can remember, this morning's Today programme included "major websites" in its paper review
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aorder-order.com+%22today+progra…
East-Link · 2019-05-12
Cambridge Analytica didn't work on Brexit, though. You've been reading too much Guardian.
https://order-order.com/2018/11/06/information-commissioner-crushes-ca…
(My source could be criticised as biased, but click through to to the actual report by the Information Commissioner's Office if you are suspicious.)
alva · 2016-04-11
Even more tax hypocrisy being spouted by the Guardian.
http://order-order.com/2012/11/26/the-guardians-offshore-secrets-guard…
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/28/the-insufferable-hy…
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/guardian-media-firm-ma…
mbgaxyz · 2016-04-04
Pot kettle black?
"...most of the UK’s big media organisations shelter assets and cash flows offshore. Top of the hypocrites in this respect is The Guardian. They put their assets in the Caymans, and they used a Luxembourg tax shell designed by PriceWaterhouseCoopers to funnel cash flows beyond the reach of HMRC. "
"Other media organisations using offshore entities include the Huffington Post – whose journalists criticised Amazon for doing the same. The owners of the Mail, News UK and The Telegraph also have various offshore tax-efficient structures."
http://order-order.com/2016/04/04/media-organisations-using-offshore-h…
ch215 · 2015-02-27
Met bars Guido Fawkes and others from asking RIPA questions amid Press Gazette conspiracy theory
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/met-police-bars-guido-fawkes-and-others-…
Met's extraordinary Ripa FoI refusal
http://order-order.com/2015/02/27/mets-extraordinary-ripa-foi-refusal/
gaius · 2013-10-27
Here you go: http://order-order.com/2012/11/26/the-guardians-offshore-secrets-guard…
GMG is selling a product. They (the owners, editors, writers) no more believe it than at McDonald's corporate HQ they live on cheeseburgers for every meal.
da_n · 2013-09-20
Guess I should have been more specific, it is an official D-Notice by the MOD relating to Tempura:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/17/defence-d-bbc-media-censo…
http://order-order.com/2013/06/08/d-notice-june-7-2013/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempora
anon1385 · 2013-08-20
They were 'requested' not to report it by the government: http://order-order.com/2013/06/08/d-notice-june-7-2013/
ceeK · 2013-08-01
What scares me further is that The Guardian seem to be the only publication that are reporting on this. I'm a frequent BBC News reader and generally trust in there neutrality. I would not have heard about any of the recent revelations if not for The Guardian. I didn't even know about Tempora until I saw it on a HN comment and looked it up on Wikipedia. Apparently there has been a "D-Notice" to prevent reporting on the matter [1].
[1]http://order-order.com/2013/06/08/d-notice-june-7-2013/
cstross · 2013-07-24
Aaaaand ... the other shoe has just dropped:
http://order-order.com/2013/07/24/poll-result-86-of-readers-say-sue-cl…
Guido Fawkes is talking to his lawyers about Libel. (Which under English law -- the reforms haven't gone through yet -- places the burden of proving that she didn't damage his reputation squarely on Claire Petty's shoulders.)
I'm just astonished that an MP appears to have been so ignorant of the law of her own land (and how it applies to twitter) that she left herself wide open to this.
r4vik · 2013-04-04
Nice try Guardian: http://order-order.com/2013/04/04/a-tip-off-for-the-guardian-investiga…
thu2111 · 2021-05-07
No, sigh, it's the other way around. The people who believe the law was broken were lied to, by a corrupt set of regulators. Very apt, given the topic here.
The Electoral Commission spent a long time trying to build cases against Leave campaigners. It did so because although theoretically neutral, like a lot of British government institutions it's run by people who are openly biased and happy to make strongly political statements on the record. The EC is literally run by people who made public statements saying Brexit and the Tories are bad, and that they wanted Remain to win. They also never bothered speaking to the people they were fining as part of their investigation. Not a good start.
https://order-order.com/2018/07/17/electoral-commission-email-reveals-…
So they worked over-time to try and prosecute people who campaigned for Leave, but they themselves (fortunately!) do not have law enforcement powers. This is indeed fortunate because every single case they referred to the CPS and Police was dismissed on the grounds that no crime had actually been committed. The High Court has repeatedly criticised the EC for appearing not to know what electoral laws actually say. Or in other words, the people you are claiming "officially found" one side to have violated the law, had their investigations/decisions labelled by the High Court as "unconstructive", "arbitrary" and lacking "any rational basis" (quoting the judgement itself…
mistakoala · 2013-12-30
I think the spread of support is less clear. I vaguely recall some survey a few months back that posed a carefully-phrased question along the lines of "ISPs should do more to control what children see online (agree/ disagree)" and the support from Guardian readers was clearly in favour (can't rememeber the percentage).
There's a split in the Conservative party about infantilising adults - you just have to read ConservativeHome to see that. I would go as far to say that a majority of activists dislike what Cameron is being seen to do with the ISPs.
Contrast his current actions with his words several years ago: http://order-order.com/2007/11/24/cameron-we-are-libertarians/
I feel he's dangerous because he doesn't espouse an ideology. He doesn't offer a sense of where he wants to take the country - just wherever the newspaper headlines will take him. It might most kindly be described as a misguided sense of noblesse oblige.