Mark Simonson
ms-studio.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2008
Mark Simonson, a type designer who writes about typefaces, including the Anonymous Pro coding font, Arial versus Helvetica, and period type in movies.
What HN saysHN commenters recommend his free Anonymous Pro monospace font and cite his article on Arial's origins as an excellent explanation.
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- 1New free monospace programming font by Mark Simonson: Anonymous Pro11 people · 166 points · first shared 2009 · 87 comments on HN
- 2How windows screwed typefaces (Helvetica vs Arial)5 people · 7 points · first shared 2008 · discussion on HN
- 3How to spot Arial.4 people · 18 points · first shared 2008 · 6 comments on HN
- 4Anonymous, a fixed with sans designed especially for coders3 people · 12 points · first shared 2009 · 14 comments on HN
- 5Proximanova2 people · first shared 2013
- 6Typecasting: The Use (and Misuse) of Period Typography in Movies1 people · 89 points · first shared 2010 · 30 comments on HN
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lt · 2011-05-25
I've been using Anonymous Pro: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html mentioned in a followup to that article: http://hivelogic.com/articles/anonymous-pro-programming-monospace-font…
mattparcher · 2010-06-24
It will break iBooks as people design beautiful standards-compliant ebooks that look great in other readers that support standards.
And yet, the author shows an example of proper behavior using Arial for the book’s body text, and Trebuchet in a garish red to mark up the screenshot. There are many beautiful fonts, but these are not two of them.
Edit: see http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html as to why Arial is so inferior to it’s predecessor, Helvetica.
idan · 2009-11-26
Anonymous Pro is a lovely, free, monospaced font. http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
jbr · 2009-10-31
My favorite: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymous.html (free)
Installing anonymous is one of the first things I do when I get a new mac.
DrJokepu · 2009-09-23
Note that Arial is not based on Helvetica, it is more like a cousin of Helvetica. Arial's ancestor is Grotesque 215. There's an excellent article about that here: http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html
sharth · 2013-02-27
From their source, it appears that the font they are using is called Proxima Nova. Which can be purchased for web use.
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/proximanova.html
andrelaszlo · 2013-01-20
That was easy. I read this article about a year ago and once you've seen it, you can't unsee it :)
http://www.ms-studio.com/articlesarialsid.html
nathos · 2013-01-16
although if you look at the history, Proxima Sans (precursor to Nova) was released several years before Gotham: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/proximanova.html
hythloday · 2012-10-07
None-one's mentioned it so I want to point out Anonymous Pro, pretty much the first thing I install on every dev machine.
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
mphi · 2012-09-12
Anonymous Pro (http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html).
tomc1985 · 2012-05-19
I really like Anonymous Pro, 11pt font, 0.9 linespacing on my 1440x900 mac. Looks good with light AA
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
edit: it sort of has serifs. kind of. well more than most sans fonts
redler · 2012-04-23
There's an interesting story behind Arial; it was developed as part of a PostScript clone back in the days of Adobe's tight control over the Type 1 specification. Microsoft then threw gasoline on the Arial fire by bundling it into Windows 3.1, purportedly to save licensing costs.
http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html
runn1ng · 2011-11-03
I prefer the coding font Anonymous Pro (has nothing to do with the hacktivist group) - it's located here and it's for free.
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
Personally, PragmataPro looks too condensed for me. It is probably more "economical" to use condensed fonts, but to me, it is really not very readable.
modality · 2010-12-09
I use Anonymous Pro, which is available here:
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
j_baker · 2009-12-23
I use anonymous pro: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html
Admittedly, I use it because it's pretty. Hence why I started a question to find out more about what makes a good programming font.
btn · 2009-09-24
For people more typographically inclined, there is a much analysis and history of Arial at: http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html
ZeroGravitas · 2009-09-23
I was under the impression that Arial was a cheap knock-off of Helvetica. They took a similar font and reshaped it so it could stand in for Helvetica.
Clearly this is uninspired, much like a KDE theme trying to recreate Mac OS X. There's no actual law that says such a knock-off must be inferior to the original but a) it's off to a bad start, and b) even if it ties with the original it's got the taint of being a rip-off motivated by greed.
The full history of Arial, from a link someone else posted:
http://www.ms-studio.com/articles.html
Note that Red Hat has in turn commisioned a font that is "metric compatible" with Arial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts
wastedbrains · 2009-05-01
I am a big fan of Anonymous, it is currently my emacs code font.
http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymous.html