Marketing Pilgrim
marketingpilgrim.com · Group blog · on HN since 2007
Marketing Pilgrim is a blog covering online marketing, search, and tech business news, including Google, Twitter, Groupon, and startups.
What HN saysHN links it as a news source on Google, Groupon, and startup stories, with commenters using it to find specific reported claims.
25HN people shared it
3linked it in comments
70stories submitted
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Most-shared posts
- 140% of Groupon merchants say "never again"1 people · 114 points · first shared 2010 · 96 comments on HN
- 2Google Tries to Patch Its Talent Leak1 people · 20 points · first shared 2009 · 3 comments on HN
- 3Twitter is a Cash Cow in the Making1 people · 14 points · first shared 2009 · 13 comments on HN
- 4Content spamming with "article theme versioning"1 people · 8 points · first shared 2012 · 3 comments on HN
- 5Google Responds To FTC With “You’re Looking For What, Exactly?”1 people · 7 points · first shared 2011 · 3 comments on HN
- 6It's not as hard to build a startup in New York City as you've heard1 people · 6 points · first shared 2007 · 4 comments on HN
- 7Why Microsoft Needed Facebook & Google Didn't1 people · 4 points · first shared 2007 · 1 comments on HN
- 8Silicon Valley is the Only Place for Startups (based on PG article)1 people · 3 points · first shared 2007 · 3 comments on HN
- 9The Death of the Small Guy1 people · 3 points · first shared 2007 · 1 comments on HN
- 10Google PageRank, Revisited1 people · 3 points · first shared 2007 · 2 comments on HN
- 11Google Buying Twitter? Not a Bad Idea1 people · 3 points · first shared 2009 · discussion on HN
- 12Yahoo Web Analytics is Better than Google Analytics, But Still Unavailable to the Masses1 people · 3 points · first shared 2009 · 1 comments on HN
- 13Does Bill Gates Think the Internet is 10 Years Old?1 people · 2 points · first shared 2008 · 1 comments on HN
- 14Some Microsoft Thoughts on Chrome OS1 people · 2 points · first shared 2009 · discussion on HN
- 15How to be a Twitter Guru1 people · 2 points · first shared 2011 · discussion on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
gojomo · 2009-06-05
The supplied link doesn't include the phrase, but this other article on the same site does:
http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2009/05/google-to-departing-employees-…
It seems that simply the "Employees:" in the title is enough to feed a Google 'square' with the following text, as if the ":" always indicates a labeled value.
(I was especially motivated to look up the origin because I made a similar quip about the employee-retention-analysis here on HN: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=617711 .)
DanBC · 2013-03-06
If Ford had a $2.5billion[1] advertising program encouraging people to take part in street racing then yes, I might well hold them partly responsible for street racing deaths.
Especially if the budget for public health education is tiny.
[1] 2007, according to this source (http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2007/10/what-top-brands-spend-on-adver…
nl · 2010-12-16
I'm currently find this discussion ignorant and annoying.
People are claiming a $3.7 B valuation implies a $10 B exit, and that this is absurd somehow, so therefor the VC's must be stupid.
Here's the Math so you can understand the logic.
Google claim they can make $10/year from advertising, per user on Android phones[1]. Current speculation is that Facebook is on course to make around $1.6 B from 500 million users this year (ie, $3.2/user/year)[2]. If Google and Facebook can do this, than surely Twitter can make a comparable number - but lets say $2/user/year to be conservative. Twitter has ~150/million users, so they should be able to make around $300M/year. Google's P/E is ~20, but they are a mature company, and Facebook seems to be trading at a P/E of ~50. For out estimates we'll split the difference and give Twitter a P/E of 30. 300M * 30 = $9 Billion.
People seem to think that Twitter can't make any money from advertising. In my view, this is a pretty extraordinary claim - everyone else can make money, so why can't Twitter? They actually have a lot of advantages (eg, desktop & mobile installs) that most websites don't have. Many companies pay to be included on toolbars etc that end up on people computers, and yet to here people here talk you'd think having millions of people install your thick client is a…