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Lucas Nussbaum

lucas-nussbaum.net · Personal blog · on HN since 2010

Lucas Nussbaum, a Debian developer and Ruby package maintainer, writes about release management and how Debian handles Ruby packaging.

What HN saysHN commenters cite his posts as the Debian side of a dispute with Rubyists over packaging, noting he later addressed their concerns.
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    Ruby packaging in Debian and Ubuntu: Mythbusting and FAQ
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    Lucas Nussbaum’s systemd Lecture Slides
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mgunes · 2010-09-28
It might be worth re-evaluating this rant in the light of Lucas Nussbaum's (Debian Ruby maintainer) recent "mythbusting and FAQ" post: http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=566
nailer · 2013-08-28
Ack re: Firefox branding. However the FHS stuff was also part of it - see post from a Mozillian here: http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=211
sciurus · 2013-04-14
Do you mean what is covered at https://lwn.net/Articles/423732/ ? I don't think that makes Nussbaum look bad at all. A few months after that fracas, Debian actually made several changes to address Rubyist's concerns; see http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=681
mariana · 2010-09-28
You know, maybe somebody would want to know the Debian POV on this issue: * http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=566 * http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=575 Debian is all about stability and volunteer effort. Whining is not going to fix things.
dredmorbius · 2012-05-29
The reasons I would cite: the Ruby development community leaves a lot to be desired from a sysadmin's perspective. We went through similar pains with Perl, but they're mostly a decade or two behind us. With Ruby, there are multiple concurrently maintained trees, it's hard to sort which one should be "primary" on a system, and you have to do a lot of serious grokkage to understand that RVM isn't really intended for maintaining system Ruby installs, but a local per-user developer instance. Which, when what you've got Ruby for is managing chef, is a more than slightly whack. http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=617 http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=681 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2059964 Much of Perl's use is by sysadmins, which means it plays well in their space. By contrast, much of Ruby's use is by web developers, many of them on bastardized MacOS systems (they're born bastards, it's not the developers' fault ;-). Which means that Ruby's packaging is whack. I don't hack much of either, though work around both. The nice thing about Perl from my perspective is: 1. It's included with the system. I run Debian/Ubuntu boxes if I can possibly help it, Perl is of of the tools used to write a whole slew of system scripts, and as a consequence, it's very well managed within the distro. Red Hat/CentOS aren't far behind. 2. CPAN plays nice. Under Debian, your CPAN bundles are installed to /usr/local/ Debian's just sorting out where to store Ruby…

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