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I'm paying for a dedicated server at the moment with 1GB ram for 39 euros/month, an upgrade to 2gb ram (total) is 10 euros/month extra from LeaseWeb (http://leaseweb.com), which has half decent routing. I know the exchange rate sucks (being in the US myself), but an option to consider, perhaps. I've always been partial to Slicehost, but my main need uses a lot of bandwidth and disk space and they absolutely can't compare to overseas hosts for bw/$. slicehost's most generous plan is 1600gb transfer at $280 and our 4000gb for 79 euros from leaseweb is vastly cheaper, although you have to mix and match some of the other specs. Honestly, do not go with midphase dedicated servers. If I remember correctly they're just reselling softlayer(.com), and softlayer is a LOT better in every aspect compared to midphase. I've had some friends use midphase and have so much trouble with their customer support when something goes wrong...softlayer in my experience has been everything great about a company providing these kinds of services.

As others have said, Hetzner is better if you're OK with hosting in either Germany or Finland. That said I'm actually quite impressed with IONOS prices for an hexacore ryzen is pretty good. 32GB of RAM is also good (for that price, in the US) with either 2 1TB drives (RAID1, they count it as 1TB which is great) or 2 ~480GB SSD/NVMe drives. Their offering is pretty impressive! You may also like Leaseweb which has lots of data centers: https://www.leaseweb.com/dedicated-servers#US Ionos actually has better prices than leaseweb given the configuration, but always good to know some competitors.

The closest match would be http://leaseweb.com/, which is more expensive but they do have US based boxes too.

PHP is still used by pubescent future billionaires and the now mid-career professionals that began their journey during the free market anomaly of 1995-2000 (an anomaly brought to you by The Architect of the Dystopia, a man worthy of an antagonist role on Dr. Who; that is, the ultimate responsible party for creating PPP/RAS.) PHP is also used by artisans from other genres that migrated to web tech later in life in search of (tech) "jobs". I would dare to add that, other than those who normally operate in technician-like capacities (including BPO roles), no serious software engineer would choose to initiate a new project in PHP. In PHP's defense though, the "language" was created to solve an actual purpose, which makes its existence 101% valid IMNSHO. That purpose tho, was a dude seeking to make it easier to update his online resume (bc ColdFusion cost bank during the economic nuclear winter that followed said market anomaly and LI didn't exist yet). Not knowing what to expect, but wanting to lay off hundreds of thousands of expensive American workers during that economic disaster (following the dot-com bubble), IBM adopted PHP for a short while and turned it into a "real" environment, training thousands of their BPO replacement workers to be used by it. At some point, Marky Mark and The Facebook Bunch made a compiler for PHP because they had trouble attracting workers during that era who were competent in other "languages". But, as the Industry began to refill with labor…

- several Gigabit dedicated - http://leaseweb.com - probably they are not very different than a cloud provider in that aspect, other than that I seem to be getting a pretty good treatment from hosting providers in general (EV1/The Planet excepted, they've gone downhill to the point that we quit hosting there). There are differences between providers, but for the most part those are relatively small once you reach a certain level. - The lease terms are variable depending on the use case, but the majority of the longer term leases are for a year to two years, flat rate published price is about 1E29 / Mbit exclusive VAT for 100Mbit, including server lease. I get a better deal than that but I've been asked not to publish it, I'm sure you understand. A box with 24 1T drives, 8G of ram and dedicated 1G flat-rate uplink currently lists at E1199/month ex vat if you pay in one go for a year, a bit more if you pay month-by-month. http://www.leaseweb.com/en/configurator/index/id/95 If you're located outside the EU then you do not pay VAT (and if you are in the EU you'll get it back). Good negotiators will probably be able to shave some off that price, and if you are able to serve lots of bandwidth with relatively little cpu you can add another G for E750, which puts you under 1 euro / Mbit. If I would do the same using Amazon I'd be paying a multiple.

There is also https://www.hetzner.com/ (IaaS), https://www.leaseweb.com/en/ (IaaS) and https://www.nodion.com/en/ (PaaS). Disclaimer: I am the founder of Nodion.

I've heard that Hetzner is a good provider, so I want to buy a cheap unmanaged VPS server in the USA. But can not find any mention about VPS. Any help, please? Just need to replace this one (the same bad story $$$ as Netlify recently): https://www.leaseweb.com/fr/cloud/virtual-server

I've enjoyed leaseweb having dedicated servers (when on sale) for half the price of many 'modern' vps slingers.. eg: CPU 1x 4 cores 3.30GHz SYS-5037MC-H12TRF 2 SFF bays ram 16GB DDR3 hdd 1x1TB SATA traffic 10 TB Availability 1 hr - 5 days US$43.64 per month - ( https://www.leaseweb.com/bare-metal-server/configure/27128?configurati… ) yeah that's not apples to apples - it's not an SSD drive - those are more for that size, but it sounds like you are looking for price and likely do not need to spend the extra dough for SSD.

Leaseweb is very affordable and I have had good luck with them https://www.leaseweb.com/dedicated-servers#US

We are using https://www.leaseweb.com/dedicated-servers#NL which is indeed a monthly contract.

It's also in the US, Germany, Hong Kong and Singapore: https://www.leaseweb.com/platform/data-centers

I've looked at the top three PDFs (for US, NL, DE) from this page: https://www.leaseweb.com/legal These terms are contained in all three documents. These are called General Conditions so I assume they apply to every service of the company.

What OS would you run on a POWER server? Which model and configuration of HP server did you buy and for how much? I actually had popular dedicated server hosting providers in mind, e.g. Leaseweb. http://www.leaseweb.com/en/dedicated-servers Re: linked servers. Thanks for the concrete info! $8K for 10-core / 3.4 GHz POWER8 with 32 GB RAM and 2x300 GB 10K rpm drives. Those have to be some freakishly good 10 cores, to justify that kind of a price at least for _some_ use cases.

AWS has a fine stack for deploying "cloud native" apps on top of EC2 instances. Build a base AMI using Packer and launch it to an Auto Scaling Group behind a load balancer. Deploy code to the ASG using CodeDeploy. Use RDS for the database. This is a good match for languages that have good concurrency like Elixir. They benefit from deploying to big machines that have a lot of CPU cores, and keeping a common in-memory cache on the EC2 instance is more efficient than using an external cache like Elasticache. It also works well for resource-hungry systems with poor concurrency like Ruby on Rails. Putting these kinds of apps into big containers is just a waste of money. Here is a complete example of that architecture using Terraform: https://github.com/cogini/multi-env-deploy Similarly, bare metal can be really cost-effective. For $115/month, I can get a dedicated server with 24 VCPU cores (2x Intel Hexa-Core Xeon E5-2620 CPU), 64 GB RAM, 4x8 TB SATA, 30 TB traffic (see https://www.leaseweb.com/dedicated-servers#NL). That would be an order of magnitude more expensive on AWS with containers.

Talking about myself, as a python dev: - cheap VPS for hosting, postgres for the db, nginx as a proxy, redis for everything else, including caching. - deploy python projects by packing them as zipapp with shiv, then use fabric to ssh and performs any migrations necessary. No, not even ansible. - build, lint, format and test, like all automatizable stuff, are made using pydoit. If you are solo, you don't need a CI service. Your laptop is the CI machine. Scaling is always the same story: 1 - start with the cheapest VPS possible. This will force you to code with some constraints. Not crazy, just enough to balance it out. 2 - once you start seing your load average rising, just move the db on a second cheap VPS. You just tripled the load you can sustain. Not doubled, tripled. Most solo projects will stop here actually. 3 - wait again, collect some perfs data when you see the site starting to be slow. Check for slow queries, code hot paths, etc. Optimize that, add some cache, setup tasks queues. Use cron to purge / regenerate cache if you need to smooth out the curve. Maybe slap some varnish for extra peps, or just cloudflare. 4 - now you got what looks like a real load, and a more realistic code base, so when you peak again, request more perfs for your server, or migrate to another bigger one. You can scale vertically to crazy highs nowadays. Really, really crazy. You can get terabytes of RAM, 64 cores servers, etc. At your current scale, your service should generate…

Congratulations on launching/going public! I remember seeing your hypervisor/container tech a while back, and it's nice to see a service based around it. A couple of thoughts: 1) Your quickstart ends with a command to remove the test container, but leaves other resources, like the pulled image, billed at 10 cents/started GB intact. That's probably going to surprise some people that start to play with your free credits, and then maybe end up eating that/getting a (small) bill at some point due to dangling images. Might want to add a "hyper rmi nginx" on the end, along with commands to remove the shared volume? 2) The binary for Linux seems to work fine under "bash/Linux subsystem for windows" on windows 10. 3) Inbound bandwidth on the smallest images are abysmal - I didn't test bigger ones, so I'm not sure if are just those that are oversold/under-provisioned. I got 2-300 Kbps from Ubuntu mirrors and http://speed.hetzner.de/1GB.bin on a fresh Ubuntu container -- while from my small vps on Leasweb[1] I got a solid 10 MB/s (basically 1 Gbps). Granted the small VPS is almost 5 Euros a month - but that includes an IP - and drops with a longer term commitment (again apples to oranges, I know -- the whole point of containers on demand is that they are, well, on demand). And Leasweb is pretty close to Hetzner - but still, at least breaking a solid 1MB/s should be an absolute minimum. [1] https://www.leaseweb.com/cloud/public/virtual-server

Cheap root server providers, mostly in Germany if nothing mentioned otherwise, all with own infrastructure (no resellers) and my personal experience. Note that prices mentioned in Germany are almost all the time incl. VAT, so you might be able so save 19% on those prices. https://www.hetzner.de/us/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver - Hands down my favorite. Very powerful hardware for the price, very professional, good network https://www.webtropia.com/en/ - extremly cheap, many different offers, good quality, good option if price is very important https://www.hosteurope.de/en/Server/ - The "Root Servers" they sell are actually VMs. High price but good quality https://www.strato-hosting.co.uk/server/dedicated/ - Belongs to Deutsche Telekom, big company, I never used their dedicated servers (the VMs are crap though) http://www.server4you.com/dedicated-server/ - cheap, big company, quality is ok. Other brands are Serverloft, Plusserver, unmetered.com https://www.1and1.com/server-dedicated-tariff - big company, good network, not that cheap http://www.euserv.com/en/dedicated-server/index.php - many different offers, good support, good value https://english.keyweb.de/products/server/dedicated-server/ - never used the dedicated servers, VMs are crap https://www.ip-projects.de/produkte/premium-rootserver/ - no personal experience https://contabo.de/?show=server - Small company, good offers, good support https://www.manitu.de/root-server/ - Small company, very good…

> Is this is a list of what is most likely the cheapest options? The options with the fastest setup? Lowest commitment? Comparing server-hosting options (dedicated, own hw+colo, vps, cloud) merely by paid $$/month, dedicateds and owned hardware + colo-housing always wins (in my experience). You can get a HP DL120G7 w/ good cpu and 16gb ram, incl housing and a TB of traffic for ~ $300/month[0]. Last time i checked the prices for an aequivalent offering on amazon (and others) was way beyond that (excl traffic). A startup could easily boostrap with mentioned hardware. And you're the only one on that hardware, you're pretty much guaranteed the power that you're promised. Now if you want more than one machine, you'd probably put some virtualization on your server. For that, you need someone on your team who is able to and can spend the time to setup some virtualization on your HN. And care about it. (Can be lot of work or very little, depending on how much time/effort was spent in the setup process). If you don't have that person on your team, you'd have to pay someone to do it. This can push the costs significantly, maybe beyond those of the virtual competition. Another benefit of VPS/cloud is that you never have to care about the hardware running your boxes. A harddrive dies? Not your problem, and you probably wouldn't even notice. If you have your own hardware, you could protect against downtimes due to hardware failure by having critical server-parts redundant, e.g.…

Soyoustart 16G/4T for $42: http://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/ Soyoustart 8G/8T for $69: http://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/ Soyoustart 96G/4T for $84: http://www.soyoustart.com/us/essential-servers/ Hetzner EX40 32G/6T for $64: https://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-… LeaseWeb 16G/4T for $58: https://www.leaseweb.com/bare-metal-server/configure/18403