KevinMD
kevinmd.com · Group blog · on HN since 2011
KevinMD, a physician-run site publishing essays by doctors on medicine, health care costs, burnout and alternative medicine.
What HN saysHN links it for doctors' firsthand views on medical practice, with commenters citing posts on physician burnout, lipids and pocket ultrasound devices.
40HN people shared it
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Most-shared posts
- 1Could a glass of wine diagnose long covid2 people · first shared 2022
- 2Hide your health insurance status and pay cash instead1 people · 48 points · first shared 2013 · 71 comments on HN
- 3Cognitive Dissonance in the Medical Profession1 people · 13 points · first shared 2022 · 6 comments on HN
- 4Behind the scenes of a detox scam1 people · 11 points · first shared 2017 · 3 comments on HN
- 5Why primary care will soon only treat chronic conditions1 people · 6 points · first shared 2019 · 1 comments on HN
- 6Terminal dehydration: A gentle way to die?1 people · 4 points · first shared 2022 · 2 comments on HN
- 7How to Discourage a Doctor (2014)1 people · 2 points · first shared 2015 · discussion on HN
- 8Why managing physicians is like herding cats1 people · 2 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 9Dear lawmakers, this is what it's like to be a doctor today1 people · 2 points · first shared 2014 · discussion on HN
- 10I didn't become a physician to do data entry1 people · 2 points · first shared 2018 · 1 comments on HN
- 11Will Elon Musk's Warning About the Future Hold True for Medicine?1 people · 2 points · first shared 2022 · 2 comments on HN
- 12Useful design flaws explain some hemoglobin disorders1 people · 2 points · first shared 2012 · discussion on HN
- 13ChatGPT: the Napster of the AI world?1 people · 2 points · first shared 2023 · discussion on HN
- 14I never understood the loss of empathy during medical training1 people · 2 points · first shared 2014 · discussion on HN
- 15The shocking confessions of a naturopathic doctor1 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
tcj_phx · 2016-12-05
I can't match you on credentials or acronyms, but I'm pretty good at figuring out what matters for improving my own health.
"Should cardiologists evaluate their obsession with LDLs and HDLs?" - http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2016/04/should-cardiologists-evaluate-thei… (April 2016)
Saw this link on the sidebar:
"Slow Medicine: Pressing Pause on Statins For Primary Prevention" - http://www.medpagetoday.com/Blogs/SlowMedicine/61836 (December 4 2016)
I would estimate that the cholesterol fetish has about 2 more years before it begins to slide into irrelevance, and the field begins to refocus on the causes behind the symptom.
A classic fun movie clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Or-Hx3yqc
acqq · 2016-02-23
So it was 3300 USD total for the solution?
And the interesting detail, in the article that the author links there is this opinion from the doctor who uses the portable ultrasound device:
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2014/05/pocket-ultrasound-machine.html
"Other doctors often ask me if I bill for my exams. I don’t, because billing and the detailed documentation and posturing that would be necessary to prove to an insurance company that an ultrasound was necessary would take more time than I have."
The rest of the article is also insightful.
merqurio · 2016-01-10
I'm in the last year and I would totally do it again. It's true college it's abusive(http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2016/01/physicians-arent-burned-theyre-abu… but I find it amazing as a career.
Alex3917 · 2011-01-06
This is what I found within a couple minutes of Googling. Do you have any contrary information suggesting that the majority of doctors are in fact up-to-date with the latest academic journal articles published within their fields?
"One New England Journal of Medicine study found that patients get only 55 percent of the care that's recommended for the leading causes of death and disability. Similar research in children showed they get just 47 percent—and a mere 41 percent of preventive steps that are proved to help."[1]
"Despite 15 years of advances about what is known of [sinusitis], the information isn't making its way to internists because it is not been published in journals or other sources often reviewed by internists, who most often treat sinusitis. For instance, many internists are unaware that chronic sinusitis can cause serious chronic fatigue, Chester says."[2]
"It’s unrealistic to expect the majority of physicians to go back to the original literature or even to go back to systematic reviews of the original literature,” said Gordon Guyatt, MD, of McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, who is credited with coining the term “evidence-based medicine."[3]
"In a 2005 systematic review in the Archives of Internal Medicine, most studies found a correlation between increasing years in practice and decreasing quality of care."[3]
[1]http://www.rd.com/living-healthy/is-your-doctor-out-of-date/article166…
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openknot · 2022-06-22
It's probably lifestyle inflation (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lifestyle-inflation.asp), where spending increased in proportion or in excess to rises in income. A surgeon in the US wrote about colleagues who exhibited this behaviour in a blog (source: https://www.kevinmd.com/2019/03/why-many-doctors-live-paycheck-to-payc…
buildbot · 2022-06-11
The next 5 years could be very interesting and sad if it turns out that COVID has lasting, long term damaging effects on your organs and vascular system, we are just beginning to see the tip of the iceberg.
For example, there is an extremely serious post covid multi-system organ inflammation that occurs in children : https://www.cdc.gov/mis/mis-c.html
Watch, I bet we will even see a huge jump in rare cancers.
Edit: And in adults, it does weird things to your alcohol tolerance: https://www.kevinmd.com/2021/03/could-a-glass-of-wine-diagnose-long-co…
I can not drink wine really anymore.
matthewdgreen · 2022-04-20
Had COVID ten days ago, noticed the same symptoms. Feel fine in general, but two glasses of wine made me feel like I'm dying. Seems like others have noticed the problem, but fortunately it's not causing widespread (adult) liver failure. https://www.kevinmd.com/2021/03/could-a-glass-of-wine-diagnose-long-co…
neilv · 2020-12-19
I found this opinion interesting: https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2015/09/how-call-rooms-reflect-the-person…
RcouF1uZ4gsC · 2019-09-13
https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2014/09/abortion-ectopic-pregnancy-politi…
Many people including ob-gyns do not consider surgery for an ectopic pregnancy an abortion.
lasermike026 · 2017-08-31
edwinespinosa09 · 2016-01-11
Dealing with the diagnosis and treatments/surgery is indeed tough physically and psychologically.
Physically it's important to understand how to deal with things day to day. Article is on nutrition post-diagnosis from John Hopkins.
http://pathology.jhu.edu/pancreas/TreatmentNutrition.php?area=tr
Psychologically the whole team (family/friends/practitioners) need to be on the same page and transparent.
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/03/fine-balance-hope-cope-cancer-pati…
Patrick Swayze had this condition and despite his prognosis filmed a movie and did his own stunts.
w1ntermute · 2015-12-10
> Suppose you're testing for something that only occurs in 1% of the population or less. What if the Theranos test just never returns a positive? Then that test is "99% accurate" compared to the "normal" test.
Understanding statistics is very important here: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2015/11/the-controversy-over-theranos-miss…
dmix · 2013-10-22
What does 99.99-% of phone call records have to do with Terrorism/National Security?
Mass data collection doesn't discriminate. These organizations are in the business of collecting everything about you. "Debt collection" is just their primary business.
For ex, most American pharmacies sell what prescriptions people are buying [1] to data mining companies. But they at least "de-identify", due to federal regulations. TSA operates outside quite a few laws/regulations protecting individual rights. We can now add information privacy to that list.
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/06/pharmacies-selling-prescription-in…
frozenport · 2012-11-24
Could this be by design? A private practice seems like a waste of resources. Imagine the unused medical devices or the large number of support staff around just one or two doctors.
To quote, http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/02/are-days-of-independent-physician.…
`These trends will ensure that the consolidation of doctors into larger groups will continue. Whether this definitively benefits patient care is still unclear, but I suspect that patient outcomes will likely improve as this movement continues.`
michaelt · 2012-10-03
Of course some things are expensive - but there are still efficiency savings to be made; Americans on average spend more for the same health outcomes.
For example, American medicine has a culture of ordering lots of tests based on legal, rather than scientific guidance. Consider the Merenstein PSA case [1] for an example.
Increasing efficiency and driving down average healthcare costs ought to reduce insurance costs.
[1] http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2004/05/doctor-sued-uspstf-guidelines-pros…
llimllib · 2012-01-10
> I'd just pull out of Medicare.
Many hospitals do; many don't because they feel it's a moral obligation to provide care to Medicare patients. Here's an example of that attitude: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/12/dropping-medicare-break-heart.html
In order to stay in Medicare/Medicaid (which, as I said, many see as a moral requirement), hospitals are often required to lay off staff. Here's an example of 100 layoffs at Dartmouth Hitchcock hospital: http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111109/NEWS02/711099983
msluyter · 2011-12-06
Well, it's arguable whether public education is a public good. Wikipedia says:
Law enforcement, streets, libraries, museums, and education are commonly misclassified as public goods, but they are technically classified in economic terms as quasi-public goods because excludability is possible, but they do still fit some of the characteristics of public goods.
Since ERs can't turn away indigent patients, health care also has some degree of non-excludability, in practice. Perhaps the question of whether or not it's a public good lies at the heart of the health care debate. Here's the argument in favor: http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2009/08/is-health-care-a-public-good.html
sillyhealthcare · 2015-12-15
This post is unrealistic in medicine, and really only works for less serious/elective care issues, not primary medicine, or where doctor and location choice actually matters.
As a starter: I'm woman with an extremely strong family history of breast cancer before age 50. Standard clinical guidelines is to start doing heavy monitoring 5-10 years before the youngest person in the family tree was affected, since usually cases get progressively younger start dates. Since one of the people was around age 32, I'm under the age of 30 and I go for mammograms, ultrasounds, and MRIs every year as if I were a cancer patient already.
Mammograms, ultrasounds, CAT Scans, MRIs, (any form of medical imaging radiography) are actually a perfect example of how the market internationally could be more efficient, but it turns out that's impossible. At its core we're basically talking about photographs, something facebook manages to serve from location a to person b that is nowhere near location a every day. Why couldn't I go to any imaging place in the US, and have my images sent to the lowest cost provider somewhere in india to be read and interpreted by a radiologist, and then have the results sent back to me. Unlike Chris, I don't even have to meet my doctor, all I have to do is send him images.
It turns out that medically this is blatantly difficult if not impossible to do. The reasons are 2 fold
1) It turns out that age and variations in how and why the machines that used, as well…
ekianjo · 2014-09-26
There is no cardiovascular benefit for alcohol intake. The only evidence for this is an observational study, which does not prove causation at all and is heavily disputed. It would not be the first time that observational studies are proven wrong in actual trials :
> In recent years we have seen that the results of similar “observational” studies were disproved when subjected to a “randomized controlled trial”—the standard bearer of scientific proof. A good example of this is female hormone replacement. For decades it was believed that female hormone replacement was beneficial. But a randomized controlled trial, called the Women’s Health Initiative, demonstrated that the exact opposite was true. The study was stopped in 2002 because women taking the study pills of estrogen plus progestin were developing heart disease and breast cancer at increased rates compared to those taking the placebo or inactive pills."
http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/01/red-wine-good-heart-brain.html
mbreese · 2012-05-25
I figured that was where they were going... but wanted to make sure - the word medic threw me.
"Do no harm" isn't as clear cut as that. You have to do harm all the time as a doctor - the question is what is the lesser harm? Would you rather have a few broken ribs, or a heart that isn't beating. Either way, you're causing harm. Most people would rather you crack a few ribs though.
(BTW, that phrase actually isn't part of the Hippocratic Oath [1][2])
Here's a different example. Is burning a religious text (Bible, Koran, etc...) ethical? What if it is in private? Is anyone harmed? Many people would consider this an unethical act, even if no one was around to see it. And if no one would see it (and thus be offended), where is the harm?
Another example: Imagine Alice is in a wheelchair and is shopping. She accidentally drops her phone on the floor. At that moment, Eve walks by, notices Alice struggling, and yet does nothing. Eve continues walking on her way. Did Eve cause Alice harm? Alice was already in trouble, and Eve didn't do anything help. However, Eve didn't do anything to cause Alice's problems. So you can't really claim that Eve harmed Alice, even though many would question her inaction.
This is just to point out that the concepts of harm and ethics aren't necessarily linked. But that is really moot in this case, because no one can really claim that this kid caused AOL no harm. It may just be really small in monetary terms.
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bermanoid · 2011-12-17
You note that in medicine and law women are no longer a minority, and that they receive equal pay, and nearly equal social power as their male counterparts.
Sorry to be [citation needed]-guy, but a quick Googling tells me that this is not true. In both medicine (http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2011/02/gender-gap-physician-salaries.html… and law (http://www.theglasshammer.com/news/2009/02/05/the-wage-gap-puzzle-in-t… the pay gap is substantial, and a quick look says that they're both worse than tech.
From that first link:
Without these adjustments and just looking at a Population Survey from 2007, the New York Times reported that women doctors earn a whopping 40% less than their male colleagues. That is worse than every other profession the Times looked at. Yes, even lawyers.
I don't think wage gap is what's pushing people away...the worst case difference in tech is around 10%, which is not particularly bad compared to most fields, and for recent grads the gap is much smaller, around 4%.
I'd probably look to absolute value of wages instead for an explanation, though that wouldn't explain a difference between men and women's preferences.
If you want to bring women into the industry, you need to make the industry appealing to women. With current discriminatory practices that is just not the case, and until that changes, there won't even be an opportunity to recruit women, because those…