Jason Baptiste
jasonlbaptiste.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2009
Jason Baptiste, a startup founder, writes about launching products, getting press, and acquiring customers.
What HN saysHN mostly cites his post "If you build it, they won't come," which commenters quote on how startups need marketing effort.
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Most-shared posts
- 1How To Become a Millionaire In Three Years6 people · 322 points · first shared 2010 · 73 comments on HN
- 2If You Build It, They Won’t Come.6 people · 216 points · first shared 2010 · 54 comments on HN
- 3How I Pitched TechCrunch And How To Get Press When You Launch Your Startup6 people · 136 points · first shared 2010 · 26 comments on HN
- 4Email Newsletters Are Serious Business4 people · 88 points · first shared 2009 · 27 comments on HN
- 5How To Go From Idea To Launching With Paying Customers In 8 Steps3 people · 161 points · first shared 2010 · 41 comments on HN
- 6Ways Your Startup Needs To Be Getting Customers3 people · 102 points · first shared 2010 · 10 comments on HN
- 7Email Newsletters Are Still A Serious Business3 people · 68 points · first shared 2010 · 39 comments on HN
- 8How To Succeed Like Apple3 people · 52 points · first shared 2010 · 30 comments on HN
- 9Build What Had Previously Not Been Possible2 people · 164 points · first shared 2010 · 64 comments on HN
- 10Some harsh realities of being an entrepreneur2 people · 52 points · first shared 2011 · 9 comments on HN
- 11Disruption and My Next Startup... You Help Decide2 people · 45 points · first shared 2009 · 43 comments on HN
- 12Why You Need To Start A Startup2 people · 43 points · first shared 2011 · 2 comments on HN
- 13What Is Your Minimum Viable Market? | Jason L. Baptiste2 people · 5 points · first shared 2010 · 1 comments on HN
- 14They Will Steal Your Idea. They Cannot Steal What Really Matters.1 people · 124 points · first shared 2010 · 47 comments on HN
- 15What To Look For In A Business Co-Founder1 people · 112 points · first shared 2010 · 34 comments on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
t0 · 2013-03-16
They won't come. At least not automatically. It requires some effort on your part, even if it's a tiny bit.
I love that quote. Is this the original source? http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/if-you-build-it-they-wont-…
sotu25 · 2012-02-28
Yes, we had a launch party and predicted a flood of people banging on our door to use our product. For some reason it didn't quite go that way. We launched on 1/11/11 to add a coolness factor to it but to no avail. Here are two great links discussing it by Jason Baptise and the Balsamiq guys...guess you're a little past this phase though:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/if-you-build-it-they-wont-…
http://blogs.balsamiq.com/peldi/2008/04/18/preparing-for-launch/
hiroprot · 2011-01-27
But one example is often markets where user behavior is fundamentally shifting, or where there is a sudden change (e.g. adoption of truly smart phones) leading to opportunity.
Great point. A very good write-up on that is http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/build-what-had-previously-…
Maybe I will write a post on how to identify a great market, as that is a pretty big topic.
For what it's worth, I'd love to see you write that.
sabat · 2010-10-08
Paul -- would love to hear a summary of what you did to market these sites. SEO? Direct marketing? Word of mouth? Online ads? What was your approach, and what did you learn?
Edit: I suppose one could read this post: http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/distribution-distribution-distribut…
misterbwong · 2010-08-17
This was an insightful article posted on HN a few weeks back:
"If you build it, they won't come"
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/if-you-build-it-they-wont-…
hajrice · 2010-07-29
In my opinion, an email newsletter would be fantastic. Jason L Baptiste recently wrote a great article on that(link: http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/email-newsletters-are-still-a-serio…
You could target the gamers(focusing on the gamers that play multiplayer games) audience and have website whose target audience you're serving pay you for ads.
I remember there was a discussion on HN mentioning this topic, someone said that you could easily take 300 for a CPM for email newsletters.
Thus, if you do the math you have near 6k from newsletters.
Good luck! :)
jasonlbaptiste · 2010-07-05
Hey, this is a followup to a post that explains that well towards the end: http://jasonlbaptiste.com/commentary/email-newsletters-business/ hth.
ochiba · 2010-03-21
I guess we have to look at the vision for this project:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/misc/my-next-startup/ (see #6)
which is to become the defacto platform for SaaS application marketing and distribution, including a billing system (partnering with a company in this space like Braintree or Aria Systems might work well?) and [I'm guessing] sharing data, single sign-on across applications (NEC ApplicationsNet does some of this: http://www.applicationsnet.com/)
Congratulations on pursuing this idea, Jason. I've been watching this space eagerly since your excellent discussion and subsequent post on "disruption and my next startup"
mindcrime · 2011-03-24
All that stuff could be getting submitted and just not upvoted, because it is boring.
It's not boring if you want to become very wealthy. For reference, see jasonlbaptiste's "How to become a millionaire in 3 years?" post:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/how-to-become-a-millionaire-in-thre…
These bits in particular:
Charge for something- Building a consumer property dependent upon advertising has easily made many millionaires, but it isn’t the surest path. It takes a lot of time and scale, which due to cashflow issues will require large outside investment probably before you are a millionaire. Build something that you can charge for. That’s how business has worked for thousands of years prior to the 1990s.
Make Sure You’re Robbing A Bank- When Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed banks, he said because that’s where the money is (Thanks to edw519 for this phrase). Make sure whatever you’re going after is where the money actually is ie- a customer that will pay you. Consumer markets are tough, especially with web based products. People expect everything to be free. Businesses are usually your best bet.
If you buy into that, then reading about customers (and business customers in particular) is VERY interesting.
petercooper · 2016-01-29
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/commentary/email-newsletters-business/ was on HN 6+ years ago and inspired me to get into email newsletters, which I was very skeptical about. Now we're a company of 9 doing it :-) It's not a very self help style post, but just seeing examples of something was enough to inspire.
dirktheman · 2013-04-29
I read a piece on this recently:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/how-i-pitched-techcrunch-a…
The main gist is that to get journalists/bloggers to write about you, you have tell them a story that they can rewrite and run. I spent years as a PR professional, and unfortunately, this is still how it works. I wouldn't say that bloggers/journalists are lazy, but they get pitched so often it's hard to select a good story for them.
Some other advice: Find out which blogger usually runs stories about Pinterest or social startups. Find out his/her email address, and write a personalized pitch. Keep it short but engaging.
Last tip: you can call Robert Scoble. His phone number is on his website, and apparently he doesn't mind getting pitched over the phone. Be sure to have your story straight, though!
tmcneal · 2012-02-29
It's interesting to see how startups are able to get media coverage without previous connections to tech media outlets.
The OP's approach reminds me of a blog post posted on HN awhile back with some tips for getting press: http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/how-i-pitched-techcrunch-a…
mburst · 2011-11-20
Since you seem to be targeting local discussions it may help to get local newspapers involved. Local newspapers pretty much live off of people in their community doing potentially big things.
As nreece said, contacting tech bloggers is a really good way to get started. Here is a really good article detailing some ideas http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/how-i-pitched-techcrunch-a…
chc · 2011-06-08
He later turned it into an article on his blog, which has nicer formatting and I think some extra content (though I don't feel like comparing the two side-by-side to confirm it): http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/how-to-become-a-millionaire-in-thre…
pyjama · 2011-03-28
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/how-to-succeed-like-apple/
I have few suggestion to make but, I think Jason has explained it more clearly in his above blogpost.
--Hope this helps!
revorad · 2011-01-13
chaosmachine · 2010-12-17
Back in June, Jason L. Baptiste wrote an article for HN called "How to become a millionaire in three years"[1]. Here's a quote:
"Look for the accessory ecosystem- iPod/iPhone/iPad case manufacturers are making a fortune."
[1] http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/how-to-become-a-millionaire-in-thre…
melissamiranda · 2010-11-09
How about some good old promotion? Contact bloggers and try to get some PR. Here's a few good articles that have been mentioned in HN:
http://blogs.balsamiq.com/product//2008/08/05/startup-marketing-advice…
http://blog.zferral.com/post/972974853/startup-marketing-getting-your-…
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/how-i-pitched-techcrunch-a…
http://blog.traindom.com/places-where-to-submit-your-startup-for-cover…
idiotb · 2010-10-13
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/how-to-succeed-like-apple/
hey you can go through this article, I personally use it as my management guideline.
stakent · 2010-10-08
joshbert · 2010-08-12
Another home run. I'm really taking a liking for Jason Baptiste's style.
Having said that, I'd be interested in more articles on how to gain traction. The last one (http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/if-you-build-it-they-wont-… was incredible, and it definitely left me wanting more.
Thanks, Jason.
india · 2010-07-21
GFischer · 2010-07-05
Wow, the sale price for DailyCandy is an eye-opener (125 million)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DailyCandy
Edit: already stated in Jason's original post:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/commentary/email-newsletters-business/
profitbaron · 2011-11-24
Build a good app/site that people want. You won't get coverage if it isn't good or is essentially a clone.
If your app/site is good then here is a good article for you to start with: http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/how-i-pitched-techcrunch-a…
Remember TechCrunch coverage does not mean that your startup will be successful and if they don't cover you it doesn't mean you won't be successful either. What is important is building a good app/site that people want.
With regards to offering them money etc... NO. Daniel Brusilovsky was fired from TechCrunch over a bribe attempt - http://venturebeat.com/2010/02/05/techcrunch-daniel-brusilovsky/ - and this isn't a route you should be looking to go down. Although, if you are looking for paid reviews of your website/app which does not mean they will be nice about your app and they are also disclosed that they are a paid review - there are several websites that will connect you with bloggers that will do this for you.
Remember the important thing which is building a good app/site that people want and if you do that, not only will you get coverage but you will get users.
kanamekun · 2011-10-19
Here's how Eric defined MVP:
<< First, a definition: the minimum viable product is that version of a new product which allows a team to collect the maximum amount of validated learning about customers with the least effort. ...
Second, the definition's use of the words maximum and minimum means it is decidedly not formulaic. It requires judgment to figure out, for any given context, what MVP makes sense.
http://www.startuplessonslearned.com/2009/08/minimum-viable-product-gu… >>
By that definition, it feels like a video could definitely qualify as an MVP? It allowed them to validate important learnings about customers with the least effort... not so different from an AdWords MVP smoke test:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/featured-articles/how-to-go-from-idea-to-lau…
In any case, it sounds like Drew programmed enough to create a prototype but not enough for it to have the polish required for a user to be able see that it "work[ed] seamlessly" or "worked just like magic." So in that sense, the video did allow him to exert less effort and still test his customer hypothesis.
ryanwaggoner · 2010-10-05
One of the things that popped out at me in this announcement is that he's going to be launching this on email, rather than a blog. I know email seems like it's so antiquated and passé, but after listening to Mixergy's interviews with IdealBite and VitalJuice, I'm not so sure. The CPMs for email newsletters seem to be 20-100x what you can get for a blog in the same space, because the customers are so much more engaged. This might not work as well in a tech market, where the audience presumably uses RSS (or maybe not, as Jason already has a sizable list). That said, the reality seems to be that normal people do not use RSS, so you're probably better off starting an email newsletter than a blog.
Some links:
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/commentary/email-newsletters-business/
http://jasonlbaptiste.com/startups/email-newsletters-are-still-a-serio…
http://mixergy.com/jen-boulden-ideal-bite-interview/
http://mixergy.com/amanda-freeman-vital-juice-interview/