Grumpy Website
grumpy.website · Personal blog · on HN since 2017
An anonymous blog cataloguing bad design in modern web and tech products, from Google captchas and accounts to car interfaces.
What HN saysCommenters recommend it as a favorite blog and cite it as an example of how modern flat UIs and tech products frustrate users.
59HN people shared it
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Most-shared posts
- 1Grumpy Website – a blog about everything wrong with modern web & tech24 people · 408 points · first shared 2017 · 159 comments on HN
- 2Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome3 people · 1.3K points · first shared 2019 · 483 comments on HN
- 3How UI degrades over time3 people · 19 points · first shared 2025 · 1 comments on HN
- 40RsaxCu3P3 people · first shared 2019
- 5The low information density in a Google search for ‘dog’2 people · 3 points · first shared 2022 · 1 comments on HN
- 6No One at Google Understands How Google Accounts Work (2018)2 people · 1 points · first shared 2018 · discussion on HN
- 70SU9WNFXB2 people · first shared 2019
- 8Renault's driver UX is a disaster waiting to happen1 people · 401 points · first shared 2019 · 322 comments on HN
- 9Gmail Icons are Hard1 people · 324 points · first shared 2018 · 223 comments on HN
- 10Firefox changing its tab design1 people · 41 points · first shared 2021 · 11 comments on HN
- 11I propose a new design term: "total design failure"1 people · 19 points · first shared 2025 · 4 comments on HN
- 12Please don't put checkmarks in checkboxes before I checked them1 people · 15 points · first shared 2024 · 7 comments on HN
- 13Famous YouTube UI Consistency1 people · 10 points · first shared 2020 · 1 comments on HN
- 14GitHub UI Redesign Proposal1 people · 7 points · first shared 2018 · 1 comments on HN
- 15Even in 2020, sharing a file is still an unsolved problem1 people · 6 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
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bckmn · 2020-05-16
In a vein similar to your annoying technology site, you would probably appreciate https://grumpy.website/
One of my favorite blogs of all time.
lproven · 2026-05-19
> Windows 11's UI seems easier on the eyes than Haiku now.
I feel the exact reverse. I find modern flat UIs ugly and hard to operate, which makes them more tiring.
It is not just me:
https://grumpy.website/
askonomm · 2025-10-15
There already is something like it (though not Apple-exclusive): https://grumpy.website/
Joker_vD · 2025-04-01
Just yesterday saw this great example: [0].
[0] https://grumpy.website/1642
dewey · 2024-06-25
Only in a way that we are in the same website business for a while: https://grumpy.website and https://annoying.technology
gryzzly · 2024-04-12
just check https://grumpy.website there’s lots of mainstream, popular apps/websites/tools that have plain broken UX and users have to work around that, but keep using them.
truculent · 2023-08-29
I generally think this website is great. Although I have to disagree with the google translate one: https://grumpy.website/1364
Can anyone enlighten me about what an alternative UI or design might be?
Zecc · 2023-05-19
The fact this comes from the same author as https://grumpy.website/ makes it extra hilarious.
cturtle · 2022-06-05
Completely agree. Though, I do think Grumpy Website [0] uses the footer & infinite scroll combo in a way that perfectly fits the site :)
[0]: https://grumpy.website/
systemvoltage · 2021-06-26
I tried reading the footer to get the contact information for on https://grumpy.website but it keeps doom-scrolling and only visible for a fraction of a second. What an irony.
I dream of a day when we go back to pagination. No, not just pagination numbers on the bottom of the page to flip through pages, but also the URL should reflect that and be able to share the 7th page with someone using a link.
todfox · 2021-06-26
For more of these daily annoyances: https://grumpy.website
The growing user hostility of UIs makes me want to stop developing software and even stop using computers. I started using computers because they made more sense to me than a lot of things. Now, I'm encountering these little moments of illogic and unreason every hour of the day.
It's not just beginners who need little cues. I'm deeply familiar with the APIs behind many of these monstrosities and yet I still find myself annoyed or momentarily confused by UIs that minimize, obscure, and hide in the name of Design.
dmitriid · 2021-05-19
Material.io pages are a great study into the problems with Material in general. Each iteration has glaring problems.
Links are not links. Buttons are not buttons: https://grumpy.website/post/0Ra93yy33 The current design still suffers from this.
Fonts in pictures: https://grumpy.website/post/0TEKUvqDX
Contrast: https://grumpy.website/post/0TEJkwzPA
ungzd · 2019-12-10
BTW, a website with similar nasty UI aspects: https://grumpy.website/ (I'm not affiliated with this)
rlv-dan · 2019-10-25
Grumpy Website deserves to be mentioned here: https://grumpy.website/
azalemeth · 2021-09-01
Gcaptcha hates VPN users, and Firefox users [1, 2]. You can ameliorate this by being logged in in a google account (!). The cynic in me mutters something here about advertising.
Cloudfare, on the other hand, sometimes just decides that the website said "nope" and blocks you. It's such a giant PITA. I spend a lot of time in two countries because of my job and family -- and one restaurant near my home in one of them has decided to block all IPv4 (but not ipv6...) connections to it with cloudfare. I used to look at their menu online, often on the days that I flew back (in the 'before times'). I have to use a VPN to get around that (their food is good!). Cloudfare recently started introducing obnoxious captcha requirements and occasionally outright blocking.
The more people who use VPNs -- and I am sure they are on the rise -- the more it becomes normalised hopefully the more that this goes away. To be honest, it's a price worth paying for privacy at any rate.
[1] https://grumpy.website/post/0RzW4elEN
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20147015
chiph · 2021-06-26
Thanks for that link. One related to this one just got me on DVD Netflix's payment settings site.
https://grumpy.website/post/0VkVVuQ6t
There is no button to remove your card info. It had my old ZIP code and updating it wasn't working (it would still fail address verification). So to update the value, you are somehow expected to know to clear the field and then save, then enter the correct value and save a second time.
Except it doesn't work.[0] What does work is entering a different credit card, saving it, then reentering your original card with the correct ZIP code.[1] So bad design with no affordances and a broken help function, lead to a long-time customer wanting to unsubscribe out of frustration.
[0] Neither did the chat function to ask for help. I had to talk to a support person who told me how this was supposed to work. A phone call to support is an expensive cost to a business based on volume.
[1] Which made me think they were storing extra info using my card number as a key. And that's not great.
frosted-flakes · 2020-09-17
See also https://grumpy.website/
cytzol · 2019-10-23
> I also really dislike the App Store. [...] I used to _love_ it, I would check weekly for new things
I used to do this too, and like you, I've now grown to really dislike it. My reason is different, though: the App Store app has _plummeted_ in quality. It's now so hard to use, I don't bother using it.
1. The UI is all over the place. Some UI controls cause pages to swipe up from the bottom. Some cause pages to swipe in from the right. Some cause modals. Whenever I click something, I have no idea what it's going to do. Here are some examples: https://grumpy.website/post/0RsaxCu3P
2. It's full of bugs. I have witnessed the App Store lose track of whether an app is bought or not, downloaded or not, or installing or not. Another example: https://grumpy.website/post/0SU9WNFXB
3. It makes the rest of my system worse. Every week or so, I get a message like "Fantastical cannot be updated because it is open". I didn't set it to update. I had no idea it was even updating. I just get an obnoxious dialog interrupting my work.
The App Store used to be like a shopping mall — I'd browse the shelves, see what was new, and maybe buy a small app I liked the look of once in a while. But now it's become so hard to browse, I don't bother paying. Everyone loses out.
troupo · 2025-11-08
> Apple uses it everywhere and we never notice it because they are done well.
Done well as in: laggy, non-performant, break OS conventions and you can see elements load with the naked eye?
See App Store as an example: https://grumpy.website/post/0RsaxCu3P or Apple Arcade: https://grumpy.website/618 or...
soraminazuki · 2024-05-24
It's not limited to AI, but grumpy.website is kind of like that. Each post is concise and entertaining.
https://grumpy.website/search?q=%23AI
tonsky · 2024-04-18
They did center everything correctly for decades, do you think it was a mistake? https://grumpy.website/938
illiarian · 2023-03-21
It looks like it also uses a 7th design of the accounts popdown, and only allows one google account. Literally no one at Google understands how accounts work: https://grumpy.website/post/0PU1U2r3v (this was 5 years ago, nothing has changed)
andai · 2021-06-26
This is hilarious, but I'm puzzled by his reaction to a hamburger menu:
> Oh-oh. Drag-n-drop icon used for a dropdown menu - May 8, 2021
https://grumpy.website/post/0V_dyk3EP
hyakosm · 2021-03-30
The article points to an interesting UI bug in macOS, text alignment in buttons is weird. Cf https://grumpy.website/post/0UfwgmMDe
nsenifty · 2019-12-25
https://grumpy.website/post/0SzBFLZy9
Not being able to open all drawers at once is actually a safety feature preventing it from tipping over (see Ikea MALM fiasco). I suppose the UX could still be better.
skinkestek · 2019-12-25
https://grumpy.website/post/0Sqvx1C9H
> Five other people are reading this doc, right? Wrong! The user with a white avatar is actually a button to start a chat! Why does it look like a user and is placed where all other users are, we’ll never know.
> But wait, isn’t there a chat button next to Share? No, that’s comments! What’s the difference? Comments are square, while chat bubbles are oval!
> Also, if you ever wanted to check how your stocks are doing, there’s a button for that too.
Nice :-)
samfriedman · 2019-10-25
Wow, this one's actually crazy! https://grumpy.website/post/0Sar_W_5D
I already mis-swipe in my Reddit app and downvote instead of upvote... the "small" vs "large" swipe option feels like something that gets mis-input a lot. Okay for something inconsequential like votes, but I can't imagine deleting something I wanted to save because of it.
john-doe · 2021-06-28
jackson1442 · 2021-06-26
I can see how this one might be confusing- https://grumpy.website/post/0Vp0pSilq
but the site is misrepresenting the state. That user's state is still "muted," the red line indicates that it is a client side mute (so the user who checked the mute box can't hear them, but everyone else can) while the mute icon without a red line indicates that the other user has muted themselves; they're not transmitting audio.
There is a third state- Server Mutes turn the entire mute icon red and is a "far-end" mute. No one in the voice channel can hear that user and the user probably can't unmute themselves.
Looking more at the site I feel like the point it's trying to convey would be much stronger if it went for a quality over quantity approach and/or proposed solutions to some of these problems. A lot of them seem to almost intentionally miss the point of the UI.
For example, the airpods post[0] notes, "Want to listen to the podcast on your iPhone while playing a game on your iPad? Well tough luck using your AirPods for that," which is just completely false.
Sticking to posts like this[1][2] would lead to a much higher quality website imo.
[0]: https://grumpy.website/post/0VaJdRL-y
[1]: https://grumpy.website/post/0VlYhfUMg
[2]: https://grumpy.website/post/0VfEvLg0j
jiveturkey · 2019-08-15