Tablizer
geocities.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2007
Tablizer is a programmer who wrote on Geocities about table-oriented programming, OOP criticism, and whether computer science is science.
What HN saysHN links it as a piece of old-web programming opinion and Geocities nostalgia; commenters discuss Geocities pages more than the essays.
57HN people shared it
46linked it in comments
13stories submitted
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Most-shared posts
- 1Object Oriented Programming Myths Debunked3 people · 4 points · first shared 2008 · discussion on HN
- 2Table Oriented Programming2 people · 23 points · first shared 2009 · 20 comments on HN
- 3Programming Wisdom Center2 people · 1 points · first shared 2009 · 2 comments on HN
- 4Backgrounds2 people · first shared 2013
- 5"Computer Science" is Not Science and "Software Engineering" is Not Engineering1 people · 63 points · first shared 2012 · 85 comments on HN
- 6One of the most interesting new languages I've seen...and it's on geocities?1 people · 14 points · first shared 2008 · 8 comments on HN
- 7Shockmarket: Quant trading startup circa 1999.1 people · 11 points · first shared 2009 · 4 comments on HN
- 8BANCStar1 people · 9 points · first shared 2009 · 1 comments on HN
- 9Bumper-Sticker Computer Science1 people · 4 points · first shared 2009 · discussion on HN
- 10The tesseract, a look into four-dimensional space1 people · 3 points · first shared 2008 · discussion on HN
- 11Interview with the creator of Pac-man1 people · 2 points · first shared 2008 · 1 comments on HN
- 12Fireworks - Cheap Thrills with Toxic Consequences1 people · 1 points · first shared 2009 · 1 comments on HN
- 13Reality of Taiwan1 people · 1 points · first shared 2008 · discussion on HN
- 14Conlangfaq1 people · first shared 2009
- 15Gladiators1 people · first shared 2026
What HN people wrote when they linked it
dangrossman · 2019-08-23
I remember that I learned HTML from http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2090 -- I can still remember the URL, in the Athens neighborhood -- but I haven't seen the actual webpage in 23 years. I'd love to find an archived copy.
rwallace · 2014-05-18
Fair enough. I won't say your decision to make a new language is right or wrong - I don't know how it will turn out - but given that you have decided to do so, and given your objectives for it, my one big recommendation would be to make relational databases central to the language, the way Perl makes string processing central and PHP makes web pages central. Some possible ideas are outlined at http://geocities.com/tablizer/top.htm - you don't have to go with those particular ideas of course, but I think it's important to make relational data central one way or the other.
datawander · 2014-01-02
Great article! It reminds me of a beautiful excerpt I recently discovered that might make you feel better about all your unfinished projects:
Leaving something incomplete makes it interesting, and gives one the feeling that there is room for growth. Someone once told me, "Even when building the imperial palace, they always leave one place unfinished." In both Buddhist and Confucian writings of the philosophers of former times, there are also many missing chapters.
http://www.geocities.com/lesliebarclay/EssaysInIdleness.html
jgroome · 2012-06-20
I ran a search for "site:geocities.com/Area51" to see if the old free hosting webpages are still alive. Found this gem:http://www.geocities.com/area51/3253/
It's very easy to look down our collective noses at Geocities, but I really feel I owe virtually everything I have to their free 2mb hosting. I learned the ins and outs of FTP from uploading my first webpages - webpages that taught me how HTML works. I did my best to hide their sponsor banners with my first JavaScript.
Everyone has access to their own Facebook profile and the like these days, so the idea of owning your own space on the Web is kind of archaic.
But is there still an equivalent of Geocities for modern Internet users?
drzaiusapelord · 2012-06-20
ASCII art page last updated March 2001. This was someone's labor of love and creative outlet for a long time.
http://www.geocities.com/spunk1111/kids.htm
sever · 2011-02-19
I use the following scripts, both by Petar Marinov, they've saved me an enormous amount of keystrokes. One replaces CTRL-R history search, the other makes a much friendlier replacement for pushd and popd.
http://geocities.com/h2428/petar/bash_acd.htm
http://geocities.com/h2428/petar/bash_hist.htm
highly recommended.
mmc · 2009-05-15
I loved some of these - that Cray "Bubbles" picture is classic, and even though I never saw a ZX Spectrum, the color scheme is awesome 80's. Some are a miss, though - the CPC 464?
If I were making a list, I'd add the Connection Machine CM-2: http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/connection-machine-chip/cm2-…
Now that's what a supercomputer should look like, not all these boring racks of commodity systems we get nowadays.
There should also be something from SGI - a bunch of pics are here: http://www.geocities.com/sgipics/
I'd also add the Tera MTA, a supercomputer system I'd bet few people have seen: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6270/su-tera.jpg
randomtask · 2009-05-11
If you're looking for a really easy to follow guide to get everything installed quickly then try http://www.geocities.com/arhuaco/doc/subversion/apache-subversion-in-d…
Subversion also has a really nice Windows client in TortoiseSVN if that's any use to you.
yummyfajitas · 2008-12-08
The confusion comes from the fact that "playful" and "hurtful" are, to a great extent, properties of the teasee rather than the teaser.
Fabienne [Pulp Fiction French Girl]: A pot. A pot belly. Pot bellies are sexy.
Butch [Bruce Willis]: Well you should be happy, 'cause you do [have a pot belly].
The net result of that conversation is NSFW in a positive way (here is the script http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/7606/pulpscri.htm).
I've had a similar conversations, and it doesn't always go so well. In retrospect, I believe the reason is that Fabienne considered herself beautiful and knew Butch was merely trying to get a reaction from her. Previous ladyfajitas didn't all feel the same way about themselves.
aagnihot · 2008-10-22
I have read Dr. Vikram Sarabhai's biography(http://www.geocities.com/hari_ghk/vikram.htm) and in my opinion, his hard work has paid off. Also, most of top 20-30 Indian companies might be paying taxes more than $78 million each year, so we can easily say that the program is not a burden for most of us...
As a geek, as an Indian, as an techno-historian, I am aware of how much of sacrifice people made to make this happen(eg: http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mp/2002/11/18/stories/2002111801050… Great work!!
senthil_rajasek · 2008-06-27
The key to this list is books that have changed one's life.
In that spirit, apart from Gandhi's autobiography the other book that changed my life and millions of others is "Thirukkural" which was originally written in Tamil a few thousand years back. I don't have a specific English translation to recommend but here is one (from a wikipedia reference entry actually),
http://www.geocities.com/nvashraf/kur-eng/close01.htm
jdknezek · 2009-01-08
I've been using the Dvorak layout for at least 9 years, and with the right hardware I've been able to get around the weird ZXCV placement. I currently use a 2030 from http://www.typematrix.com . It has function key mappings that place cut, copy, and paste directly below the ZXCV portion.
Also, you may want to try the Capewell-Dvorak layout by Michael Capewell at http://www.geocities.com/smozoma/projects/keyboard/layout_capewell.htm… . Mr. Capewell has an evolved layout as mentioned by trickjarrett, but the Capewell-Dvorak layout attempts to be a simple correction to some glaring issues in Dvorak like the inconvenience of the ZXCV placement, typing G and H on the same finger, placing A under the pinky and O under the ring finger, etc. I haven't had the time to spend to learn it, but I think it would be well worth the endeavor for someone just learning their second layout.
nadim · 2008-04-24
At SS08, MA@TC quoted "Man in the Arena" [1]. An excerpt from the same work by Roosevelt:
"Of course all that I say of the orator applies with even greater force to the orator's latter-day and more influential brother, the journalist. The power of the journalist is great, but he is entitled neither to respect nor admiration because of that power unless it is used aright. He can do, and he often does, great good. He can do, and he often does, infinite mischief. All journalists, all writers, for the very reason that they appreciate the vast possibilities of their profession, should bear testimony against those who deeply discredit it. Offences against taste and morals, which are bad enough in a private citizen, are infinitely worse if made into instruments for debauching the community through a newspaper. Mendacity, slander, sensationalism, inanity, vapid triviality, all are potent factors for the debauchery of the public mind and conscience. The excuse advanced for vicious writing, that the public demands it and that the demand must be supplied, can no more be admitted than if it were advanced by the purveyors of food who sell poisonous adulterations."
It is nearly impossible to take MA seriously after he uses terms like "Amatuer Hour at Twitter" for one of the most influential technical individuals in our community right now. Blaine Cook is a Man in the Arena, MA is a slandering journalist. MA should apologize and hold the same standards to himself that he asks of his…
zerr · 2017-03-22
Aren't people annoyed by URL imports? e.g.:
import "http://www.geocities.com/bla/packagebla"
i.e. I don't want to mention some 3rd party irrelevant company name, and especially its URL in my source code.
vezzy-fnord · 2014-01-19
To add on to the OO counterargument, here's a thorough debunking of object-oriented programming: http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/myths.htm
Note that this refers to the Nygaard interpretation of OOP, which is also the most widely used: rigorously class-based and in many ways retaining a procedural nature.
Smalltalk and Eiffel are different beasts, but they never really made it.
brudgers · 2013-06-21
GeoCities clipart backgrounds still available!
http://www.geocities.com/clipart/pbi/backgrounds/
fein · 2012-06-20
It's like looking through time! On another note, Bandung, Indonesia seems like a nice vacation spot.
This guys woodcarvings are absolutely incredible. Fully detail MRAP? A wooden F-2002? I'll take one!
http://www.geocities.com/wcaindonesia/
sp332 · 2012-06-20
This one works, it even has a tracking pixel :) http://www.geocities.com/epark/
alter8 · 2012-06-20
> I wonder if someone missed a server when decommissioning the cluster?
I submitted because I wanted to hear a possible explanation. I see that some sites have some nested content, but nothing found when you go to their root. Is it because they are just missing index.html? EDIT: thanks for correcting me, sp332.
http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
http://www.geocities.com/soho/7373/
sebastianavina · 2012-04-22
I still remember my geocities URI: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/3664 I typed it so many times before I understand relative and absolute locations... :(
gnosis · 2011-05-18
Those Eccentric Chessplayers:
http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lab/7378/eccent.htm
davidmathers · 2010-12-10
That page has top/topmind/tablizer written all over it.
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TopMind
http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/
jsm386 · 2010-09-07
75,233,046 links to geocities sites to rank 42nd in the world. You would think Yahoo could do something better with (eg http://www.geocities.com/monkiineko/index.html) for all that incoming traffic.
scumola · 2009-10-26
http://archiveteam.org and http://archive.org have been working together since May backing up http://geocities.com http://archive.org has done two full crawls using a shared seed list that http://archiveteam.org and http://archive.org have been modifying and sending back and forth since there isn't an index for geocities anywhere to be found. I'm suprised that the http://reocities.com guys got a full crawl done at all in only 6 days.
tokenadult · 2009-08-03
Link to previous HN submission of news article about conlangs:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=54474
Some good websites with lots of information about conlangs:
http://www.zompist.com/kit.html
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/9219/conlangfaq.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructed_language
with links to more from those.
ahpeeyem · 2009-07-30
Maybe not independently wealthy, but they were patronised by those who were very wealthy.
For example, Michelangelo:
http://www.geocities.com/rr17bb/PatrMich.html
pg · 2009-07-27
Jack Kerouac took a job as a fire monitor once. It involved sitting alone in a cabin in the middle of a forest, watching for fires.
http://www.geocities.com/phoffman3/desolation/
keenerd · 2009-07-12
I did that once back in high school. This was my primary source, and probably what you're thinking of:
http://www.geocities.com/spm_stm/Project.html
chanux · 2009-07-05
Why I see people talking about OSes a written in high level languages a lot lately?
Remember the C# one came on HN? http://daeken.com/renraku-future-os
I think an OS written in an OO language will demonstrate why some people were actually worried about OOP. http://www.geocities.com/tablizer/oopbad.htm
zby · 2009-06-29
Exactly. By the way this example shows how people with good intentions on both sides of the conflict can fall into the frustrating state of edit wars. Add there the http://www.geocities.com/bigcslewisfan/ mechanis of corrupting those in power and it gets pretty messy (as the wikipedia review site can attest).