Floodgap

You'll love G-BASIC on the Tomy Pyūta then, because its very primitive BASIC is indeed katakana: https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/tomy/pyuuta/pyuuta1.html

That picture with the developers just made it for me. Great read. The floodgap website read like quite the treasure trove as well, with the neatest showcase [1] of the author's collection. Thanks for bringing it up! [1] https://www.floodgap.com/etc/machines.html

Used this years ago for twitter https://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/ It was amazing... everyone thinks you're working with the terminal open ;)

Snow Leopard was tongue in cheek as it comes up among OSX fans as the best OS made. To your point, there are plenty newer MacOS versions that might still suit ones taste, still run 32 bit apps, and still get patched. There are plenty alternatives to surfing Safari. Heck, you can even get modern Firefox compiled for Power Macintosh G3, G4, or G5 (not for Lion 10.7 or newer, which dropped Power Mac support): https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ iCab (at icab.de) is another labor of love, though release notes look like 2018. Sites like Low End Mac help find things that can live on (example 2015 article, though incomplete and dated): https://lowendmac.com/2015/what-is-the-best-browser-for-os-x-10-6-snow…

I think the king of command line clients is TTYtter - I love it. http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/

For those with old ppc Macs, there is a port of FF4 Final at http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ Works great for me and is way faster than Safari 5.04 on a iMac G5 and a Powerbook G4 (10.5.8 in both).

Another great Twitter cli client, if cli is your thing, is TTYtter. http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/ Don't mean to detract from the original post, I just find ttytter to be a great client (and it's a single perl file)

That is what the Apple/NeXT combined company did, of course. Rhapsody showed it well. http://toastytech.com/guis/rhap.html And there's some description of the emulation nanokernel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_nanokernel But in its way OS X was much more of a clean break: a whole new OS, ported to the old hardware, tweaked to understand filesystems and file formats and given a shallow cosmetic resemblance. A/UX was a much tighter integrated system. Some of the OS functionality was provided by actual classic MacOS. What was left, if that was removed, was a fairly unremarkable Unix for its time. You could even boot it in a sort of vanilla-Unix form. You can compare and contrast here: https://www.aux-penelope.com/screenshots.htm E.g. for v3, top 2 rows (pics 1-6) are in Mac mode, bottom row (7-9) are in Unix mode. A bit like the ANS with AIX, there's little to appeal to Apple users here: https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ans/aix.html

Yeah, bitlbee rocks, I use it under an i386 OpenBSD netbook (Atom CPU), it's much faster than Pidgin. Also, I use m68.news everywhere, as it can be read with no issues. Lynx on Gopher protocol will work "as is" for Mac OS 7 I guess, and it's very fast. 68k.news it's over HTTP and not HTTPS, so it will work as is too. This is the most recent version http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/mac/lynx/download.html The interface it's weird and not so Mac like, I know, but it will fly for sure. And, well, you have Turbo Gopher too, but for your Mac version you would need the Threading extension. Gopher URL for Lynx: gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/gopher/clients/mac Proxied for the rest of machines (send it to the Classic Mac via AppleTalk or FTP or whatever). https://gopherproxy.meulie.net/gopher.floodgap.com/1/gopher/clients/ma… Gopher it's the perfect "web" for your legacy mac in order to find alternative media. No ads, no trackers no MB sized pages. You can even find news mirrors with ease. For instance: gopher://magical.fish:70/1/news Recommended portal for lots of Gopher "holes": gopher://magical.fish Blog aggregator: gopher://i-logout.cz:70/1/bongusta/ Old software for classic Macs gopher://i-logout.cz:70/1/software/Apple/Software_MacOS As you can see, if you can connect to the internet your Mac, you are far from obsolete. You can chat over IRC+Bitlbee to a big chunk of protocols, browse news, read "phlogs" from tech people, and even visit HN and Reddit over…

This site is specifically targeted to software engineers, so it's a reasonable assumption that we can talk about the relevant topics without having to simplify things for people outside that group. For a reverse proxy, you would want a computer capable of the encryption methods the modern web's security standards demand and to install a web server on it which you can access from the older computer. The server computer does not have to be fancy at all. A Raspberry Pi can do it. For software I would recommend either Caddy (https://caddyserver.com/docs/quick-starts/reverse-proxy) or NGINX (https://docs.nginx.com/nginx/admin-guide/web-server/reverse-proxy/). It can be rather complicated and difficult for someone to do, especially if you're not a web programmer. If both that and upgrading your computer aren't in the cards at the moment, I would think using the recently-discontinued browser Classilla is your best bet: http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/ It at least supports some deprecated forms of TLS & SSL. I hear there's a fork called Phoenix that kind of supports TLS 1.2 even. (I would recommend using the most updated browser regardless.)

Chrome doesn't run on Mavericks, but Firefox does. I can't say how long that will last, but I can look at what's available on even older versions of OS X as a guide: Mountain Lion and Lion can run Firefox Legacy, which is just a lightly edited branch of mainline Firefox: https://parrotgeek.com/fxlegacy.html Snow Leopard can run ArcticFox: https://github.com/wicknix/Arctic-Fox And Tiger and Leopard can run TenFourFox: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ ArcticFox and TenFourFox don't quite have 100% compatibility, so they wouldn't be ideal, but they're still very usable. So while browser support is definitely my biggest concern, I suspect there will continue to be options. It's also worth mentioning that the reason Firefox hard can't run on Snow Leopard or below is because Rust doesn't work below 10.7. Yet another possibility is running Google Chrome in Wineskin. For Adobe, I'm stuck on CS6 anyway because I'm never paying for Creative Cloud. And I'm increasingly eying the Serif suite, which supports Mavericks.

There was a similar project called TenFourFox that was halted in 2022: https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ https://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-end-of-tenfourfox-and-what… Some 12 years ago I had to order a new motherboard and at that time all I had at hand was some old eMac. I'm not sure if it had 512MB or 1GB of ram installed by previous owner but browsing the Internet was tiresome. Still, both that chunky white boy and TenFourFox managed to help me and I've purchased that mobo.

I've been working for some time on getting a modern-ish (really, modern-SSL-supporting) browser running on my Mac OS 9.1 iMac G3. My initial approach has been to try to a version of Classzilla[0] with support for more modern encryption. I wonder if I've been overthinking it. Surely, I could just compile Firefox or Chromium source to WASM, compile that with this tool, and then have a fully working browser! What could possibly go wrong? [0] https://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/

Reminds of the (older and much smaller) prototype of the Amiga chipset: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/archive/journals/micros… Source (with even more interesting pictures): http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/lorraine.html

I found a version of TenFourFox that has the moniker "7450" which you can find in their historical releases https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/. I wasn't expecting it to work and then it just did.

I would say 5-6 years tops. The only advantage that kept a bit longer was as TV titler using Scala because of the 15KHz output it could produce directly. The main trouble with Commodore was management: they had a few strokes of luck on which they monetised, but they didn't really have a vision, hence those ill-advised machines both in the 8bit and 16bit series. They also underpaid their engineers, which didn't exactly help in keeping up with bigger competitors. I read somewhere that Jack Tramiel was amazed that people had emotional attachment to his products: to him selling calculators, typewriters or toys was all the same. Note: Pre-Amiga, but you can see some of their less-known computers here: https://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret .

new web browser for PowerPC Mac: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ new OS for PowerPC Mac: https://voidlinux-ppc.org/ or, a new PowerPC computer: https://www.talospace.com/

This may be helpful [1]. It's not exactly modern but far more up-to-date than IE and NS. Last updated 2014 I think [2]. [1]. https://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/ [2]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classilla

How does iCab compare to Classilla? Which itself is very out of date. https://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/

Veronica-2 is alive and kicking: https://www.floodgap.com/infotech/ https://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw.lite?=gopher.floodgap.com+70+312…

They acquired a machine that quite a few people consider an actual computer http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/lorraine.html

If you are running a PowerPC you can use this pretty up-to-date Firefox fork: https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

Nice. It reminds me a bit of GEOS Warp http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/archive/geoswarp/

For one, all x86 malware fails instantly. That's why some people I knew who wouldn't be targeted more specifically were still on PowerPC Macs. Their software was fine for their use case. I have one for experiments from 2003 that ran YouTube fine with a bit of lag a year or two ago. Although I used default, there's even still a browser for it: https://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ People who use a lot of terminal apps that don't need a full-on browser or non-portable apps can use it to its fullest. Most importantly besides owner-controlled, the fact that you're getting to use, show off, and develop on a unique system nobody else in your area probably has. Let's not forget the novelty and awing people aspect of tech that might sell some of these.

Yes, it is what I am using. It is called TenFourFox http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ . New functionality allows you to create "FoxBoxes" which are like separate containers for a single site; this allows you to both keep some sites separate, and, ensure that when you close the site, all the RAM is reclaimed immediately by the OS.

I don’t have any PowerPC machines going any more. But for those who do, it seems that a modern web browser might still be an option: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

I would also note that others may find the name Cameron Kaiser familiar because he's the maintainer of the TenFourFox (Firefox for PPC OSX [1] ) and Classilla (Mozilla for OS9 [2]) projects. [1]: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/ [2]: http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/

TenFourFox homepage: http://www.floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox/

Here: http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/ It's a perl script that can hook into Twitter stream API. Sign up for an account, create an access token for ttytter, start subscribing to politicians, and it will suck down every tweet they make in realtime as they make them. If they make a tweet and delete it 30 seconds later, you'll have captured it. That is why whining about deletability of tweets is pointless, anybody with entry-level Linux skills can monitor thousands of politicians.

there is also a cli app that's written in perl: http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/