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Fearless Salary Negotiation

fearlesssalarynegotiation.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2015

Fearless Salary Negotiation is a book and weekly newsletter with guides on negotiating job offers, raises, and answering salary questions.

What HN saysCommenters commonly recommend it as approachable and practical, with one crediting its newsletter for helping them plan a job offer negotiation.
20HN people shared it
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What HN people wrote when they linked it

jldugger · 2022-02-07
I mean, I've never used it but Fearless Salary Negotiation[1] is commonly recommended? [1]: https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com
ckib16 · 2021-02-19
Fearless Salary Negotiation is a great book - very approachable and practical. I learned a lot from it. Also for context - just remember that actually negotiating already puts you in a good subset of people. Many people - including myself initially - are reluctant to negotiate. It's a learned skill. https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com
zshift · 2019-04-01
I've been subscribed to this weekly email newsletter for about 2 years now. https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/ The tips I learned helped me plan a negotiation strategy during a new job offer. it's not perfect, but it helped remove a lot of doubt from the process.
ibash · 2019-02-05
Buy this book, it’s well worth it: https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/
mooreds · 2021-09-26
It sounds like it is time to move on. From one senior person to another, here's my playbook. Consider your current network of former colleagues and people you have met at conferences, etc. (Or social networks/slacks/HN, if that's more your thing.) If you don't have any place to start, look on LinkedIn (or your local alternative if LI isn't big where you are). I'd start to refresh/revive those networks. That's the best way to find a job, in my experience (I am in the USA, not in Silicon Valley, fwiw). If you have kept them up, then start to talk to folks about what they are seeing for people with your skillset or bigger tech trends. If you have not talked to these folks, reach out and ask them for coffee (virtual or not). Ask them about their current challenges and how they are doing. People (myself included) love to talk about themselves. At this stage DO NOT ask them for work or about a job. You're reviving these networks and nothing will harm that like seeming desperate (which you are not!). After a couple of months of checking in, you will have a better idea of the job market available to you without necessarily going through the normal job application process. At this point, I'd start to let folks know you are looking to make a change. Find 3-10 companies where: * you know someone (or know someone who knows someone) * you are interested in some aspect of the company (tech, domain, team, approach to the problem) * you have reviewed their jobs page or…
JoshDoody · 2015-09-17
This is a really good story, and it drives home the famous @patio11 mantra: Charge more! (Even when you're an employee who charges a company a salary for your work.) This is an amazing success story that drives home the importance of knowing your value and using that knowledge to get paid what you're worth. Very cool :) Some more thoughts... Aggression Your tactics are very strong and aggressive. If you're truly indispensable, this level of aggression can pay off in a big way. Two factors go into figuring out how aggressive you can/should be: 1. How badly the company needs you. 2. How badly you need them. This seems obvious, but I think a lot of people overlook the relationship between those two things and your ability to negotiate aggressively. The more they need you, and the less you need them, the more aggressive you can be. In this case, it sounds like you knew they needed you badly and you had many other options and little loyalty to the company, so you didn't need them very much. This is a situation where strong aggression is merited. Knowing your market value I especially like that you went and got real offers from other companies. This is the best way to estimate your market value—a key step to complete before jumping into a salary negotiation. If you can find out what other companies pay for your skill set and experience, and if you can determine what your current company will pay for your skill set and experience, you know how hard you can push. Knowing…
tannerbrockwell · 2020-11-14
Agreed. I have ended job interviews that begin with salary expectations. I bought Josh Doody's book [1] a number of years ago and it had an immediate effect on my compensation level. There is a newsletter I think you can sign up for as well now. [1]: https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/
itengelhardt · 2019-05-14
Hi, I think Josh Doody might be the right mentor for you. He definitely offers coaching/mentorship sessions. Check out his writing & work here: https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/
CJefferson · 2016-07-01
You need to guide people around more accurately. Here is a stream of thought visiting the site. Bla bla how to read, let's get to the content, scroll down fast. Woops, went too far, now in footer. Put the content up-front when people arrive. "PART 1", that sounds good. But that's not a link, even though it's blue (the common colour of links). Now in part 1. Should I follow the links in the page, no let's go with 'Next'. This looks a lot like the main page again. It is the main page. I clicked on the word after Next, I should be 'Next'! Why have two links back to your main page after the words 'Next' and 'Prev'? https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/book/salary-structures is basically contentless. Should I click on the links in the page, or on 'Next?' If this is like a "book", I would expect to read it by clicking through 'next', but that misses most of the content. Basically, think about how you want people to navigate through. Do you want people to work through page by page with 'Next', or jump around freely? At the moment it seems I have to swap between the two myself, and try to search out all the content.
willhinsa · 2021-12-29
> You can’t win if you guess at their salaries. > If you underestimate what they’re willing to pay, you’re leaving money on the table. If the real answer is that they would compensate someone like you up to $75,000 dollars, and you guess they would pay a salary of only $65,000, you very literally may have just cost yourself $10,000. [0] [0] https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/salary-expectations-interview-qu… And a video from the creator of that site (Josh Doody) on this specific issue (disclosing current salary): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N7mOR9yv2U
JSeymourATL · 2019-09-18
a quick-and-dirty rule of thumb is you should add 50% to a W-2 wage to find its comparable 1099 wage.> https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/contractor-vs-full-time-employee…
mijustin · 2018-08-19
I've gone through this exact scenario, where the founder used this trick on me. I've found these articles helpful for circumventing that exploit: "How to answer the dreaded salary question" – https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/the-dreaded-salary-question/ "Can you trust your recruiter?" – https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/recruiter-business-model/
f_allwein · 2018-07-20
Check out this site - good starting point: https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/book/
pwdis_password · 2017-05-30
My guideline is here: https://fearlesssalarynegotiation.com/the-dreaded-salary-question/ The levels of answer scale up perfectly and I never had trouble with this.

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