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Eric Drexler
e-drexler.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2008
The site of K. Eric Drexler, a nanotechnology theorist, hosting his book Engines of Creation and papers on molecular manufacturing and hypertext.
What HN saysHN commenters recommend Engines of Creation as a mind-opening read on nanotechnology, and cite his hypertext writing as a Xanadu-style web vision.
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- 1Eric Drexlers classic on nanotechnology: "engines of creation"5 people · 3 points · first shared 2008 · 2 comments on HN
- 2Agoricpapers5 people · first shared 2013
- 3Toc3 people · first shared 2009
- 4Engines of Creation: The Coming Era of Nanotechnology2 people · 18 points · first shared 2010 · 4 comments on HN
- 5Molecular Machinery and Manufacturing by K. Eric Drexler2 people · 3 points · first shared 2009 · discussion on HN
- 6Chapter1 11 people · first shared 2018
- 7EOC Chapter 51 people · first shared 2009
- 8EOC Chapter 111 people · first shared 2013
- 9HPEK01 people · first shared 2014
- 10Homepage1 people · first shared 2010
- 11HPEK31 people · first shared 2015
- 12EOC Chapter 91 people · first shared 2008
- 13HPEK11 people · first shared 2008
- 141204TechnologyRoadmap1 people · first shared 2009
- 15EOC Chapter 141 people · first shared 2017
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7373737373 · 2018-12-03
I can recommend Engines of Creation:
1.0 summary: http://web.mit.edu/cortiz/www/3.052/3.052CourseReader/3_EnginesofCreat…
1.0: http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Table_of_Contents.html
2.0: https://web.archive.org/web/20140810022659/http://www1.appstate.edu/de…
abecedarius · 2017-09-09
I had a networked account in the later 80s. I also read Ted Nelson (Literary Machines) and Eric Drexler (http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Chapter_14.html) predicting something like the web but in important ways better -- there are ideas there worth returning to for today's fights about "fake news" and open-access science. Drexler was right about the timing, too.
Those guys were on the futuristic fringe, but their ideas looked good to me. So why didn't I believe Pournelle? I was like, sure, someday, but his scenario seemed practically AI-complete. I did not foresee it coming so soon out of a little bit of the right sort of natural language processing plus some great engineering.
I'm sure there were people with a better imagination! But hindsight really is way too easy.
dharmatech · 2014-06-05
Eric K. Drexler does a great job of describing a Xanadu-style hypertext system:
http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/Hypertext/HPEK0.html
hga · 2010-05-09
Spend some time on this site: http://e-drexler.com/
Start with this item at the end of the home page: Changing the narrative in the U.S.
In short, "the establishment", e.g. existing chemists appropriated the buzz Drexler created while not actually doing what he was promoting for the usual parochial reasons plus in many cases a genuine and legitimate fear of what his style nanotech will bring about.
mixmax · 2008-02-27
If you don't know how much nanotechnology will change the world go read Eric Drexlers classic: "engines of creation".
It's available online here: http://www.e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Table_of_Contents.html
It blew my mind when I read it ten years ago.
sitkack · 2019-08-10
You might be interested in The Agoric Papers [1]
[1] https://e-drexler.com/d/09/00/AgoricsPapers/agoricpapers.html
mhb · 2018-01-12
quantum effects which are hard to overcome
This is discussed thoroughly in Nanosystems (Table of Contents - http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/Nanosystems/toc.html)
eb3c90 · 2017-10-14
My bet on this subject is a combination of evolutionary computing, agorics[1], deep learning style feedback and language learning.
I've got a repo[2] for a vm where the programs can act in that way. But I am at the early stages of programming initial programs with economic/learning strategies. So I don't know how promising it is. More details can be found spread out on my blog [3]
[1] https://e-drexler.com/d/09/00/AgoricsPapers/agoricpapers.html
[2] https://github.com/eb4890/agorint/
[3] https://improvingautonomy.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/introduction-to-ago…
anonmeow · 2015-10-13
If someone is interested in real technical description of molecular manufacturing, you may read Eric Drexler's "Nanosystems: Molecular Machinery, Manufacturing and Computation".
Most parts of this book can be read on the author's website http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/Nanosystems/toc.html , and if you know how to google you can find the whole book.
The book contains a careful physical analysis of molecular machines. The technical material is unchallenged to the present day.
jey · 2010-01-06
<ACHTUNG> Vaporware Ahead! </ACHTUNG>
But, I'll support the spirit/thought anyway.
Relevant: Free e-book of Engines of Creation by Eric Drexler, http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Table_of_Contents.html (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engines_of_Creation)
mnemonicsloth · 2009-08-18
More Information from an interesting POV:
http://metamodern.com/2009/05/22/a-third-revolution-in-dna-nanotechnol…
http://e-drexler.com/d/07/00/1204TechnologyRoadmap.html
bayareaguy · 2008-02-27
A better reference for the non-nanotech stuff you mention is his "Hypertext Publishing and the Evolution of Knowledge"[1] (which clearly cites the prior work of Bush in 1945 and Nelson in 1978).
Discussion forums as we know them today have been around since about 1978 and ad-supported publishing predates the 1800's.
I can't seem to find any specific mention of what we today know as pagerank (i.e. the cumulative probability that a given user will arrive at a given page) at all in either work.
[1] http://www.e-drexler.com/d/06/00/Hypertext/HPEK1.html
T-A · 2013-12-29
... which led to http://e-drexler.com/p/06/00/EOC_Cover.html
hendzen · 2013-12-25
The relationship between Szabo and Finney goes back way further than that. They were both on the cypherpunks list in the 90's. See this paranoid rant [0] from the 90's about Hal Finney, Szabo and others being fake personas invented by Tim May (author of the Cyphernomicon).
Additionally, Szabo was an employee of Agoric Systems, publisher of the Agoric Papers [1], a treatise on market based systems. He was also an employee of Digicash [2], a failed electronic money startup created by David Chaum.
However, Szabo has released a bit of code [3], which is very different than code I would expect Satoshi Nakamoto to have written.
That said, for someone who was a professor at GWU law school, there is a remarkably small amount of public information about Nick Szabo.
[0] - http://w2.eff.org/Net_culture/Folklore/Humor/squish.hoax
[1] - http://e-drexler.com/d/09/00/AgoricsPapers/agoricpapers.html
[2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DigiCash
[3] - https://github.com/nicksz/jTime
mhartl · 2008-12-13
This is like religious people who independently re-derive fallacious arguments for the existence of God (or the necessity to believe in him), and then present them to skeptics as if they were incontrovertible---things like the First Mover argument, the argument from design, or Pascal's Wager. Any agnostic/atheist worth his salt has heard every one of those arguments ad nauseam, and has definitive rebuttals to counter them.
And so it goes; your arguments are as old as cryonics. Here are the answers offered by the Alcor FAQ, in order:
- http://www.alcor.org/FAQs/faq01.html#evidence
- http://www.alcor.org/FAQs/faq05.html#met
- http://www.alcor.org/FAQs/faq07.html#overpopulation
To those interested in more detail, I recommend the Alcor FAQ (http://www.alcor.org/FAQs/), Chapter 9 of Engines of Creation (http://e-drexler.com/d/06/00/EOC/EOC_Chapter_9.html), and the World Transhumanist Association FAQ (http://www.transhumanism.org/resources/faq.html; search for the question "What is cryonics? Isn’t the probability of success too small?").
N.B. I am one of the signatories of the "Scientists' Open Letter on Cryonics" (http://www.imminst.org/cryonics_letter/) mentioned by Eliezer in the post.