Rolf Dobelli
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Rolf Dobelli, a Swiss author, writes essays and papers arguing that consuming news is harmful and promoting a low-news diet.
What HN saysCommenters link his 'Avoid News' paper as insightful in discussions about quitting news, and also discuss his plagiarism dispute with Taleb.
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Most-shared posts
- 1Fifteen Reasons News is Bad For You, a paper11 people · 8 points · first shared 2011 · discussion on HN
- 2Avoid News – Towards a Healthy Information Diet (2012)8 people · 9 points · first shared 2017 · 1 comments on HN
- 3Avoid News, Towards a Healthy News Diet – By Rolf Dobelli [pdf]4 people · 11 points · first shared 2013 · 1 comments on HN
- 4Avoid News2 people · 1 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
- 5Avoid News Part2 FAQs.pdf2 people · first shared 2016
- 6Books2 people · first shared 2020
- 7Taleb2 people · first shared 2013
- 8Avoid News (including the NY Times)1 people · 2 points · first shared 2011 · discussion on HN
- 9How to read books1 people · first shared 2022
- 10News diat full1 people · first shared 2018
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AndreyErmakov · 2016-06-22
What you should really be doing is finding a way to consume as little news as possible, only picking up what really matters. Most of it is useless. Even HN has an inordinate amount of stuff that's either clearly political or local US news which I don't care about, that's why I generally don't follow the news page.
The AskHN is however a source of good discussions which can often provide you with new and useful insights into things.
The must read on the subject:
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part2_FAQs.pd…
redthrow · 2015-03-18
It's not just Aaron Swartz (he's wrong about this part).
Many people think the news is completely junk:
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/10/01/the-low-information-diet/
http://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/why-tv-news-is-a-waste-of-human-effort-one…
http://www.stansberryradio.com/James-Altucher/Latest-Episodes/Episode/…
sazpaz · 2013-12-12
His account on the plagiarism story. http://www.dobelli.com/book-corrections/taleb
It's definitely easy to see his book as heavily influenced by Taleb, but I supposed everything would be correctly referenced to Taleb — I never actually went to check references. Despite that, the book is a great summary of thinking biases and is clearly explained.
ohwp · 2013-04-15
I read the original "Avoid News part 1" (http://dobelli.com/?page_id=827) some time ago and also quit reading news. What occurred to me is that a lot of decisions people make are based or have to do with fear fed by news.
For example: fear for bad weather. Rain is just rain but reading the forecast in the papers sometimes make you wonder if you will survive the next day.
schneitj · 2013-01-14
I found this paper by Rolf Dobelli to be very insightful. It was a TED talk a long time ago, back when that meant a little more.
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
noud · 2022-06-09
FYI, the essay that proposes to read good books multiple times is from Rolf Dobelli: https://www.dobelli.com/en/essays/how-to-read-books/
johnsnow42 · 2022-03-24
Nothing.
There is Stop Reading the News by Rolf Dobelli [1]
[1] https://www.dobelli.com/en/books/
antihero · 2021-06-16
Has anyone got the link to the original PDF?
The link on the previous post is broken: http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
bijant · 2020-09-27
yea like this book: "Stop Reading The News" https://www.dobelli.com/en/books/
(It is based on the article by the same author: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/apr/12/news-is-bad-rolf-dobelli…
cleetus · 2019-04-10
These links discuss "news diets" as a counter to the problem of news as low-quality information and/or information pollution:
http://www.raptitude.com/2016/12/five-things-you-notice-when...
http://www.dobelli.com/en/essays/news-diet/
And here's a similar recent discussion on HN:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19084099
chmaynard · 2018-11-14
In terms of what American media calls "news", I found this essay very illuminating:
http://www.dobelli.com/en/essays/news-diet/
aaronchall · 2018-07-29
HTML version: http://www.dobelli.com/en/essays/news-diet/
Prologue:
> This article is the antidote of news. It is long, and you probably won’t be able to skim it. Thanks to heavy news consumption, many people have lost the ability to read more than four pages straight. This article will show you how to get out of this trap – if you are not already too deep in the trap.
pasta · 2018-04-05
And in English: http://www.dobelli.com/en/essays/news-diet/
I read this years ago and stopped reading and watching news. Never missed a thing. Important things you will hear one way or another and the rest is just noise. Loud distracting noise.
brownbat · 2018-04-05
Original full essay in German: http://www.dobelli.com/de/essays/news-diat-full/
wenderen · 2016-12-31
Rolf Dobelli's "Avoid News" articles are very relevant here.
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part2_FAQs.pd…
Scarblac · 2015-09-15
There are good arguments for the view that news is actively bad for you: http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd… (pdf).
howeyc · 2015-05-02
So... basically a bunch of talking points, and no real in depth analysis of what exactly is going on. How is that different from what we are getting now?
This is what 24 hour news cycle and constant new published articles has lead to. News organizations giving us something new for the next 15 minutes every 5 minutes.
That Vice show on HBO seems like the right direction to me. Does anyone know of an organization that does news similar to Vice?
Maybe I should just abandon the news altogether.
http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
gpcz · 2013-12-12
As it mentions at the bottom of the article, this is a shortened version of an article Rolf Dobelli wrote in 2010 called "Avoid News" ( http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd… ). The first one was longer under the immediate challenge that people too mired in news would probably not finish it, so it's interesting to me that he shortened this prose specifically to post it on a news site.
joecurry · 2013-12-12
The rebuttal from Dobelli >> http://www.dobelli.com/book-corrections/taleb
abhiminator · 2018-08-30
I recall reading and saving (in my Instapaper) a super relevant essay[0] written by a Swiss entrepreneur/author -- Rolf Dobelli -- that talks about how news systematically alters your 'risk-map' of the world, thus making you worry about things that'll almost never affect you while distracting you from things that actually might; as an example, the author talks about how terrorism is overrated and chronic stress is underrated, as portrayed in the media.
He suggests going on a news diet by mindfully curating the news content one plans on consuming, and thinking about its relevance to everyday life.
Personally, I can attest to experiencing increased clarity of thought, creativity and productivity once I blocked all of the junky news sites and the ilk out. This combined with practicing mindfulness has had a massive impact on my state of well-being and lowering of stress. My overall happiness has increased as a result.
[0] http://www.dobelli.com/en/essays/news-diet/
HSO · 2013-01-13
related, possibly of interest:
[1] R. Dobelli. Avoid News. Aug 2010. --> http://dobelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Avoid_News_Part1_TEXT.pd…
[2] C. A. Johnson. The Information Diet: A Case for Conscious Consumption. O’Reilly, 2012.
i myself am conflicted about the news. i agree with most of the negative points both by OP and the above; but i also feel i actually do learn something from the news, esp. as i have a relatively organized note-taking system, file and reference articles above a certain threshold of interest in bibdesk, etc.
i think the reason i learn something is that i take the 5 secs to take a screenshot or copy-paste the relevant snippets of information in my system. over time, you can see interesting patterns. sometimes, i run across a reference to some other, deeper source of information (presumably the background material the high-level news article was based on), and file a to-do to check it out in my task manager. usually i wouldn't have thought of this source or reference if i hadn't seen it cited in the news. last but not least, just scanning the headlines and summaries can give you a sense of what the hivemind of "the market" (or "the public") is preoccupied with at the moment.
so, at least to me, it's not all bad and yet i agree that it often feels like a waste of time and mental energy. i haven't figured out a solution yet but completely quitting the news is not going to cut it for me.