Dan's Data
dansdata.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2008
Daniel Rutter writes Dan's Data, a long-running site of gadget reviews, hardware tests, and skeptical technical commentary.
What HN saysCommenters treat it as a classic old-web site and point to its science-based critique of high-resolution audio and its early reviews.
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Most-shared posts
- 1Gz1054 people · first shared 2010
- 2Thermal transfer compound comparison: Vegemite vs. Arctic Silver (2002)3 people · 6 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 3It's been two years since the last update to dansdata.com3 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · 1 comments on HN
- 4Computers in Space2 people · 6 points · first shared 2010 · discussion on HN
- 5Filenames.WTF2 people · 5 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
- 6Next stop, clay tablets2 people · 3 points · first shared 2010 · discussion on HN
- 7Hacking and heritage2 people · 2 points · first shared 2008 · discussion on HN
- 8Righteous bits: on Neil Young's Pono audio format2 people · 1 points · first shared 2013 · discussion on HN
- 9Money for Nothing1 people · 202 points · first shared 2014 · 77 comments on HN
- 10A comforting lie1 people · 92 points · first shared 2014 · 18 comments on HN
- 11How To Live Forever1 people · 25 points · first shared 2009 · 26 comments on HN
- 12How technology is driven by time to market rather than quality1 people · 4 points · first shared 2009 · 1 comments on HN
- 13The physics of giant mecha1 people · 2 points · first shared 2012 · discussion on HN
- 14Logitech iFeel Mouses (2001)1 people · 2 points · first shared 2023 · 1 comments on HN
- 15Put your broken graphics card in the oven1 people · 2 points · first shared 2012 · discussion on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
Sir_Substance · 2016-12-20
>You set the price when you consume the content that you know is funded with ads.
You're objectively wrong. If that were the case, I would be blocked from accessing the content without "paying the price".
The situation is instead clearly analogous to a "pay what you feel it is worth" model.
The creators of the content allow anyone to view it, regardless of whether they run an ad blocker or not. Sometimes, they place alternative content where the ads would be, requesting that I disable my ad blocker, or like them on facebook as an alternative.
I think the "recommended price" of this "pay what you feel it is worth" model, which is usually watching advertising and allowing myself to be tracked, is too high.
I have once or twice directly sent the creator $5-10, when they offered a payment method that didn't require a paypal account. If it's good content, that's pretty reasonable. Dans Data[1] /is/ good content, even if it's getting a bit dated these days.
[1] http://www.dansdata.com
fyfy18 · 2019-03-12
There's a great review from 2000 linked from that page:
http://www.dansdata.com/pocketmail.htm
fredfoobar42 · 2015-03-28
For a counterpoint, based on actual science, make sure to read [Daniel Rutter's excellent "Righteous Bits"](http://www.dansdata.com/gz143.htm), and his [responses to the responses](http://www.dansdata.com/gz145.htm).
I listen to MP3s, I listen to AACs from the iTunes store, I listen to FLAC (concert bootlegs), and I listen to vinyl with a tube amp. I cannot tell the difference, even on quality studio headphones, between a v0 MP3, an iTunes 256kbps AAC, and a FLAC file. I can tell a difference with vinyl and the amp, but while it's different, I would hesitate to say it's _better_, let alone assume the reason why.
xattt · 2022-07-28
> I don't know anyone in my life who's heard of the site besides my uncle, but I enjoy showing it to friends and coworkers as an example of the type of website I grew up with, and which stands in a class of its own, at least to me.
I came across the site when I read Daniel Rutter’s Dan’s Data(1) pre-blog blog in the early-2000s when I was devouring everything about Palm devices as a geeky teenager. Dan had a tendency to link terms and phrases to sites that discussed what he meant in detail. Everything2 was his go-to for a lot of references and it soon became mine. Before a certain point, I think I was looking stuff up on E2 before looking on Wikipedia.
A few years later, I found my group of “wholehearted geeky but well-masking” friends in university. A couple of them also read Everything2, and the discovery of this site was one of those subconscious things that nudged us closer together.
I hope this site stays up forever, and I am disappointed it does not often come up in search results for random topics.
Of note, E2 has indeed had a small change in the last decade, and that was the main interface colour going from Burnt Orange to Purple.
(1) http://www.dansdata.com/
sbierwagen · 2012-03-14
Phones already do that. It's the bar graph we already have.
There are multiple reasons why it's not terribly useful:
1.) Signal quality depends on many different variables, and fluctuates wildly from second to second. You can have a great signal at one moment, but if the guy next to you starts a call, the radio in their phone will ramp up to the full 500mW, and drowns out the tower. You can have a signal graph that realistically reflects "signal strength", and it'll jitter constantly, and the grandmas will complain.
2.) Marketing.
Good overview: http://www.dansdata.com/gz084.htm
As you may have noticed from every cell phone advertisement in the last decade, marketing is heavily invested in the notion of bars. It's in brands, logos, ad copy, everything. More bars are better.
If engineers ran the company, they'd just stick the SNR in dBm at the top of the screen and it'd be wonderfully pure and objective; and everybody else would hate it, and the company would go bankrupt. So we have "bars", and the bars lie.
moribvndvs · 2024-06-02
Yes, the Abit BP6 was the one! Nestled inside an InWin Q500 full tower case[0]. I was a pretty big Voodoo guy initially. I already had a Voodoo3 but I was working at CompUSA and befriended the Creative Labs rep. He fixed it so I got the TNT2U and I was impressed. I flipped back and forth on the two based on game optimization. When GeForce hit the ground I never looked back.
The late 90s/early 2000s were exciting times for PCs.
0 - http://www.dansdata.com/q500.htm
rasz · 2022-05-02
>Kärna, which had invented an opto-mechanical encoding wheel that could track a mouse’s movements at 2000 dpi, far higher resolution than other mice at the time.
http://www.dansdata.com/images/boomslang/bswheels480.jpg
Instead of quadrature encoding the disks are filled with little slopes and sensors seem to be taking analog readings. In 1999 it directly competed with optical IntelliMouse Explorer and imo didnt do a good job. The shape was a gimmick and unwieldy - designed purely by marketing (confirmed by Fitch PR material linked in another post here), not someone actually looking into ergonomics (IntelliMouse Optical shape prevails to this day as the go to for all gaming mice).
hug · 2021-08-25
What's wrong with using normal thermal pastes, like toothpaste? Or Vegemite, if you're Australian, I suppose.
http://www.dansdata.com/goop.htm
bigiain · 2020-09-03
Some 2010 vintage calculations, when 16GB microSD cards were considered "big", estimates 275PB would fit in a 1985 Volvo 240:
http://dansdata.com/gz105.htm
A 2020 update for that would probably use 256 or 512GB cards resulting in around 4.4 or 8.8EB (And probably twice that again if the cargo capacity of a typical 2020 SUV equivalent of a 1985 Volvo is assumed...)
userbinator · 2017-11-28
Lian-Li made aluminium PC cases with similar designs:
http://www.dansdata.com/pcv1000.htm
https://www.overclockzone.com/newhardware/case/lianli/pc-v2000/
morsch · 2015-02-20
And I'd call a computer with 2 hours of battery runtime a desktop with a UPS. :) I jest.
That said, I think the Dell is okay in terms of connections. There's seemingly half a dozen video output plugs at the moment, including one that's been around since 1952[0]. I'd rather buy 4 adapting cables than have more than one video out on a subnotebook.
Getting data on/off seems easy: there's wifi, there's 3 USB ports for everything else[1]. Spinning (optical) disks? Really? Might as well put a LTO tape drive in there. I'd have like Ethernet, too, but in those cases where you're most likely to need it (at home, in the office), it's easy to stash an adapter.
[0] I'm not even kidding. http://www.dansdata.com/gz061.htm
[1] Also bluetooth. And there's an SD card reader, if your development process includes taking photos. External optical drives are like, 20 bucks.
simonsquiff · 2014-02-06
I don't know if this is the case for this book, but really interesting article about how some items on Amazon can get outrageous prices
http://www.dansdata.com/gz146.htm
miahi · 2012-10-21
Reminds of Dan's review (at that time, his site was 90% about hardware & gadgets): http://www.dansdata.com/kitten.htm
Someone · 2012-08-18
Hard drives will not work in a vacuum. http://www.dansdata.com/spacecomp.htm:
"Many people think hard drives are hermetically sealed, but they're not - they just have no through-flow ventilation. In vacuum, a hard drive will instantly eat itself when turned on.
[…] Even if you run at full atmospheric pressure, you don't want all your computers to die if you lose some air.
BorgHunter · 2012-04-09
It's rare, but possible, even in devices which should have nothing to do with wireless signals at all: http://dansdata.com/gz128.htm
sdrinf · 2010-10-23
I've used to type exclusively on my handy IBM PS/2 keyboard ( http://www.dansdata.com/images/clicky/ballboard1024.jpg ). Not only was it a beauty to behold, it was manufactured in 1983, had no performance degradation either since then, or throughout the 5 years we spent together (-circa 2007(!!!)), and had an awesome tactile feedback.
Finally, the ps/2 port gave in to excessive wear, and I switched it to a deck. Still have it in my old room, owning a piece from ancient history :)
shabble · 2010-07-19
A more thorough (and dare I say entertaining) version involving SD cards in a station wagon: http://dansdata.com/gz105.htm
TeHCrAzY · 2010-06-16
Reminds me of an interesting article re. the bandwidth of a station wagon:
http://www.dansdata.com/gz105.htm
jrockway · 2009-08-04
That coating of thermal grease looks WAY too thick.
It also looks like he's measuring the temperature of the heat sink rather than the temperature of the die. If your thermal compound is acting as an insulator, then your heat sink is going to be nice and cold. (That smoke you smell is your processor melting through the bottom of your case, however.)
Finally, if you want to test heatsinks, it's better to use a resistive heating element instead of the CPU. You can't control how much heat the CPU is putting out (what with automatic frequency scaling and whatnot), but you can control how much current you are pumping through a resistor. Dan's Data has an article about this:
http://www.dansdata.com/coolercomp.htm
groundlogic · 2019-08-10
I got RSI like 15 years ago. The only thing that's worked for me long term when I'm actually doing coding all day long, is a combination of:
a) a keyboard holder below the desk - something similar to https://kw.pricenacdn.com/files/images/products/original/14/Fellowes-K… - I got mine from IKEA a long time ago - unfortunately they discontinued that product - the key thing here is the get the keyboard as close to your legs as possible, i.e. enabling your arms to be purely horizontally oriented while typing - or ideally even sort of downwards-pointing.
b) Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro - manufactured 1999-2001 (e.g. https://mechanicalkeyboardtryout.blogspot.com/2016/03/microsoft-natura… or http://www.dansdata.com/nkpro.htm) I have two of these; they're very durable. You'll need to wash the key caps in your dishwasher once a year.