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CloudCracker Blog
cloudcracker.com · Company blog · on HN since 2012
CloudCracker, run by Moxie Marlinspike, was a password cracking service with a blog on attacks against PPTP VPNs and WPA.
What HN saysHN commenters point to it as an example of renting cracking power in the cloud, mainly for WPA and MS-CHAPv2.
22HN people shared it
13linked it in comments
11stories submitted
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Most-shared posts
- 1Divide And Conquer: A decryption attack against PPTP VPNs11 people · 27 points · first shared 2012 · 1 comments on HN
- 2Crack WPA on the cloud8 people · 98 points · first shared 2012 · 28 comments on HN
- 3Dictionaries3 people · first shared 2012
- 4Cheaper MS-CHAPv2 Cracking1 people · 34 points · first shared 2012 · 7 comments on HN
- 5Cloud Cracker1 people · 1 points · first shared 2014 · discussion on HN
- 6Blog1 people · first shared 2013
- 7Sticker3.png1 people · first shared 2012
What HN people wrote when they linked it
cottsak · 2015-04-21
There are already services that do this https://cloudcracker.com/ (wpa not scrypt but hopefully you see my point)
ytjohn · 2015-01-04
The code is never trasnmitted. The data is encrypted with the code and only the code on the other side can be used to decrypt it.
Most brute-force systems work by capturing packets to hard drive and then attempting to decrypt them offline. Or you can upload your captures to the cloud: https://www.cloudcracker.com/
icebraining · 2014-01-31
Even those who don't have such rigs can just rent them from, for example, Moxie Marlinspike's Cloud Cracker: https://www.cloudcracker.com/
chickopozo · 2013-03-25
I want my time back, three pages on basically nothing.
I broke into my house last year because I lost my keys -> brb writing an article titled "How I became a burglar and locksmith"*
*I took my keys from in the house so... by ars standard that's serious theft.
Rather than reading that article might I suggest having a gander at moxie's https://www.cloudcracker.com and read his blog too for all the goodies.
sillysaurus2 · 2013-11-24
To crack a brainwallet, given only the public key and sufficient bits in the password, is actually harder than directly attacking the private key.
It's incredible to see such misinformation on HN. I suggest you read this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/315/articles/A%20Large-Scale%20Stu…
This is a 2007 study on web password habits. In it, they reveal the fact that fewer than 1% of passwords have bitstrength >= 90 bits: http://i.imgur.com/8vSrx2E.png
Achieving 128 bits of protection with a user selectable and memorable password is statistically unlikely (to put it mildly).
The fact that a brainwallet password is memorable means a computer can bruteforce it in far fewer operations, too. I.e. the bitstrength is mostly meaningless. Just ask the guy who runs http://www.cloudcracker.com
A memorable user-selectable password is incredibly unlikely to be as strong as 128 random bits.
syncsynchalt · 2015-06-10
To reinforce your point, DES is now crackable by the public in under a day: https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/
zaroth · 2014-12-28
Something like this: https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/
lcampbell · 2013-11-03
Cloudcrack has a 40-core FPGA solution that allegedly can break MS-CHAPv2 in a day[1]. Looks like they charge $100/lookup[2].
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[1] https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/
[2] https://www.cloudcracker.com/dictionaries.html (in the mouseover text in the graph for brute-forcing DES keys).
ryan-c · 2012-12-24
I hope you're aware that pptp connections (including via poptop) can be broken easily.
https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/
moxie · 2012-08-28
Yep, in public compromises of large sets of WPA passphrases, more than 50% of them are phone numbers. This is why we offer a CloudCracker dictionary which includes every valid NANP number in it: https://www.cloudcracker.com/dictionaries.html
Mithrandir · 2012-08-22
Here's Moxie Marlinspike's blog post about the MS-CHAPv2 vulnerabilities: https://www.cloudcracker.com/blog/2012/07/29/cracking-ms-chap-v2/
Bruce Schneier also wrote about MS-CHAPv2 vulnerabilities back in 1999: https://www.schneier.com/paper-pptpv2.html
lastkarrde · 2012-02-15
The big sticker in the top right hand corner of the main page (https://www.cloudcracker.com/css/images/sticker3.png).
zdw · 2012-02-14
Ah, so don't use any of the 300,000,000 words in their dictionary - https://www.cloudcracker.com/dictionaries.html
Any simple password generator (say, Apple's Keychain, or pwgen) should be able to generate a non-dictionary key of length 12-16 characters in a few seconds that would withstand this and most similar techniques for the next few years.