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China Law Translate publishes English translations and analysis of Chinese laws, regulations and policy documents, including on social credit, AI and algorithms.
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- 1Seeing chinese social credit through a glass darkly2 people · first shared 2018
- 2Coronavirus treatment plan 72 people · first shared 2020
- 3China's Updated Xinjiang Uyghur “De-Extremefication” Program,1 people · 5 points · first shared 2018 · discussion on HN
- 4Overview of Draft Measures on Generative AI in China1 people · 3 points · first shared 2023 · 1 comments on HN
- 5Guidelines for the Establishment of Minors' Modes for Mobile Internet (China)1 people · 1 points · first shared 2024 · discussion on HN
- 6China Laws: Provisions on Management of Algorithmic Recommendations in Internet1 people · 1 points · first shared 2022 · discussion on HN
- 7The Rongcheng Experience: how would you do under China's Social Credit system?1 people · 1 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 8Draft Chinese regulations on social media algorithms (unofficial translation)1 people · 1 points · first shared 2021 · 1 comments on HN
- 92015nsl1 people · first shared 2024
- 10The right to an attorney and your attorneys rights1 people · first shared 2020
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- 12Homepage1 people · first shared 2021
- 13Sc punishment list1 people · first shared 2024
- 14What the national intelligence law says and why it doesnt matter1 people · first shared 2025
- 15Kid mode guidelines1 people · first shared 2025
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hunglee2 · 2022-05-01
Rare to see such quality of analysis on China's domestic policy in todays febrile media environment. We could have saved time by paying closer attention to what CPC itself says it is doing rather than to assume obscurantism and then try to 'read the tea leaves'.
China's big tech crackdown is explicitly designed to reallocate resources (human / financial capital) away from consumer software, which the CPC considers frivolous, socially corrosive and therefore 'threatening stability' and back toward industrial science - semiconductors, AI, biotech, EV, material science - strategically critical technologies for national security in light of today's hostile global environment.
For anyone interested in getting the memo when it is actually released, check out https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/
fspeech · 2020-03-08
You can find Korean recommendation here http://m.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=7428
Chinese recommendation is more aggressive and dependent on patient weight: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/coronavirus-treatment-plan-7/
Beware these drugs have side effects and interaction with other drugs. A particular feature is that they stay in the body for a very long time. It goes without saying that they should only used under the direction of a knowledgeable physician.
alanwong · 2019-03-27
Thanks for the feedback. I had intended the styling for emphasis, but I can imagine how it might not communicate well with some people.
My refutations are based on clearly worded, non-ambiguous official documents characterizing court ordered blacklists as part of China's social credit system.
Here's the Chinese Supreme People's Court's website. http://shixin.court.gov.cn/index.html The statement front and center explains that the blacklists are promulgated "to promote the building of a social credit system."
For a more comprehensive look at what China's social credit system is and what its components are, I recommend this site: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/social-credit-documents/
kube-system · 2024-08-14
Chinese national security law essentially requires cooperation with anything regulators deem necessary. This isn’t like the western world where the law is written from a presumption that citizens enjoy individualism as a default.
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/2015nsl/#_Toc423592316
> Article 11: Citizens of the People's Republic of China, all state organs and armed forces, each political parties and mass organization, enterprises, public institutions and other social organizations, all have the responsibility and obligation to preserve national security.
> Article 77: Citizens and organizations shall perform the following obligations to preserve national security:
> (4) Providing conditions to facilitate national security efforts and other assistance;
> (5) Providing public security organs, state security organs or relevant military organs with necessary support and assistance;
> (7) Other duties provided by law or administrative regulations.
> Article 79: Enterprises, public institutions, and organizations shall cooperate with relevant departments in employing relevant security measures as required by national security efforts.
imiric · 2024-05-13
Repeating the same talking points doesn't make them true.
Even if there is no nationwide "social credit score", local governments have been experimenting with an incentive and penalty system for decades now. This is well documented inside and outside of China.
Even the new nationwide law set in place in 2022[1] mentions some of the same practices carried out by local governments:
> There are 14 penalty measures for untrustworthiness, broken into 3 types [...] such as restricting entry in a marketplace or industry, restrictions on holing [sic] positions, restrictions on spending, restrictions on exiting the country, restrictions on promotion to a higher level of schooling, and so forth [...]
The law is so vague that I can imagine in practice it's abused for all sorts of things, such as "causing unrest", "spreading falsehoods", or whatever the local or central government deems to go against their bottom line.
Even sources that try to label this as a myth[2,3] can't avoid mentioning that these systems do exist as localized "pilots". So whether or not this is done nationwide, whether or not a "score" exists for individual citizens, and whether or not they're aware of it, doesn't make this a myth, or some form of Western propaganda. Your statements that all of this is a myth is patently false. Please stop spreading disinformation.
[1]: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/sc-punishment-list/
[2]:…
shalmanese · 2020-04-18
It's not even leaks, it's included in the Official Coronavirus Treatment Plan:
"(4) Salvage therapy: for patients with severe ARDS, a recruitment maneuver is recommended.
When human resources allow, prone ventilation should be carried out for 12 hours or more every day. "
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/coronavirus-treatment-plan-7/?lang=e…
There's simply a shocking degree of arrogance from the West to refuse to learn even the most basic things from Asia about this.
For example, people are finally grudgingly admitting that CT scans could play a useful role in diagnostics after months of CDC & ACR denialism: https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/ct-scans-alternative-to-inaccurate…
edit: More details in Jack Ma Foundation produced Handbook of COVID-19 Prevention and Treatment
(3) Prone Position Ventilation
Most critically ill patients with COVID-19 respond well to prone ventilation, with a rapid improvement of oxygenation and lung mechanics. Prone ventilation is recommended as a routine strategy for patients with PaO/FiO2 < 150 mmHg or with obvious imaging manifestations without contraindications. Time course recommended for prone ventilation is more than 16 hours each time. The prone ventilation can be ceased once PaO/FiO2 is greater than 150 mm Hg for more than 4 hours in the supine position.
Prone ventilation while awake may be attempted for patients who have not been intubated or have no obvious respiratory distress but with impaired oxygenation…
rfoo · 2020-04-15
From what I read [1], the Chinese "trail" (no data, only vague description) on chloroquine phosphate was mainly focused on mild - severe cases, not critical cases. These cases were not very likely going to die even without the drug. So fatality rate would not be a good metric to follow on. Metrics used in the "trail" also does not contains fatality rate, there were only something like "lung improvement rate in X days".
Another interesting point is China explicitly banned usage of macrolide antibiotics (which includes Azithromycin) together with chloroquine [2]. It was posted on Feb 26, 2020. I tried to use Wayback Machine to check whether they rewrote the history, but it seems like Wayback Machine only saved it recently. Another source (and with English translation) [3] indicate it is at least earlier than Mar 1 though. I did a Google search on key sentence "禁止同时使用喹诺酮类、大环内酯类抗生素及其他可能导致QT间期延长的药物" and found widespread reposting around March 1, so the date is likely genuine.
[1] http://www.scio.gov.cn/xwfbh/xwbfbh/wqfbh/42311/42568/xgbd42575/Docume…
[2] http://www.nhc.gov.cn/yzygj/s7653p/202002/0293d017621941f6b2a489003524…
[3] https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/chloroquine-phosphate/
rurban · 2020-03-20
On the contrary the Chinese told the world very early how their successful treatment plan worked.
* https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/standards-of-care-for-serious-and…
* Or https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/fd15kg/preprint_article_…
South Korea and Japan used the very same plan in their ICU's.
Maybe it's the crackdown of Western media on China, but right now italian doctors trust chinese experience more than western experts. Western experts still preach lockdown, whilst Italian officials in the meantime also found out that the asian recommendation of mass testing everybody is better. Without drastic lockdowns. Test everybody, wear masks, be responsible.
> else you waste money and lives. If your wonder drug is so great you'd notice immediately in the data and would cut the trial short.
The problem is that it was chinese and south korean data only. Trials are not cut short, western buerocracy still rule the hospitals. Many doctors do get their younger patients on those trials. But in the overloaded case, such as Italy and Spain it's too late. You need to apply virostatica early on for 10 days, not when it's too late. But those people are advised to stay at home and wait for the fever to go down. Without effective treatment plan, as outlined by the chinese.
cameldrv · 2020-03-15
Thanks for the link. Current Chinese treatment guidelines are: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/coronavirus-treatment-plan-7/
They state:
4. Antiviral therapies: Interferon-alpha (adult: 5 million units or equivalent can be added to 2ml sterile injection water and delivered with a nebulizer twice daily), lopinavir/ritonavir (adult: 200mg/50mg/tablet, 2 tablets twice daily; the length of treatment should not exceed 10 days), ribavirin (recommended in combination with interferon or lopinavir/ritonavir, adult: 500mg twice or three times daily via IV, the length of treatment should not exceed 10 days), chloroquine phosphate (adult 18-65 years old weighing more than 50kg: 500mg twice daily for 7 days; bodyweight less than 50kg: 500mg twice daily for day 1 and 2, 500mg once daily for day 3 through 7); umifenovir (adult: 200mg three times daily; the length of treatment should not exceed 10 days).
Pay attention to issues such as adverse drug reactions, contraindications (for example, chloroquine should not be given to patients with heart diseases), and drug interactions. Further evaluate the efficacy of current treatment regimens in clinical applications. Using 3 or more antiviral drugs is not recommended. Corresponding medication should be discontinued should intolerable side effects appear.
tstrimple · 2026-05-26
Not a noticeable problem because they are Chinese and there are so many of them it doesn't matter if 4k die while trying to cross at crosswalks?
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/how-dangerous-are-chinas-roads/
blackeyeblitzar · 2025-01-25
Well it is like a hive mind due to the degree of control. Most Chinese companies are required by law to literally uphold the country’s goals - see translation of Chinese law, which says generative AI must uphold their socialist values:
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/generative-ai-interim/
In the case of TikTok, ByteDance and the government found ways to force international workers in the US to signing agreements that mirror local laws in mainland China:
https://dailycaller.com/2025/01/14/tiktok-forced-staff-oaths-china-soc…
I find that degree of control to be dystopian and horrifying but I suppose it has helped their country focus and grow instead of dealing with internal conflict.
roca · 2025-01-19
It's not a stretch. For example a large fraction of Chinese private companies have CCP committees embedded in them: https://www.seafarerfunds.com/prevailing-winds/party-committees-in-chi… Nothing equivalent in the USA.
China's rule of law is generally very weak. "Ultimately, no matter what the laws say, it would be difficult for any Chinese citizen or company to meaningfully resist a direct request from security forces or law enforcement, and the courts cannot be relied on to provide a remedy." https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/what-the-national-intelligence-la…
This is particularly obvious with the number of senior executives of key Chinese companies who have simply disappeared, at least temporarily, when they displeased the government. Again, nothing comparable in the USA (yet).
aragonite · 2024-06-22
For what is imo a more balanced take, see these comments from a China law expert at YLS:
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/overseas-police-stations-a-cleare…
https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110226885383647349
https://mstdn.party/@Chinalawtranslate/110503867487792072
berdario · 2020-09-09
You might want to educate yourself:
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/the-right-to-an-attorney-and-your…
It's far from perfect, but better than in the US
aeturnum · 2018-10-15
The western understanding of China's "social credit" system is pretty overblown and filled with The Wests' own paranoia about surveillance. If you want some perspective: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/seeing-chinese-social-credit-through…
07d046 · 2018-09-19
According to this guy, the Western media has a habit of getting this story very wrong: https://twitter.com/ChinaLawTransl8/status/1042040372766027781
There are so many things wrong with China and the world today, there is simply no reason to make things up, and much of what is in this piece is wild speculation or outright fabrication, belittling the real struggles of some featured in it.
More: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/seeing-chinese-social-credit-through…
sasas · 2016-12-28
Foreign companies are now facing the implications of this now. The penalties for non compliance can mean managers can face detention or monetary penalties.
Now that Airbnb moved some of their infrastructure into China for data sovereignty requirements, they may have to comply when asked to give the Chinese government access into their infrastructure that is based in China. I'm not talking about passive monitoring, but actual credentials. This may hinge on if the infrastructure is classified as "critical", a very loosely defined and ambitious term.
The implications are huge for anyone doing business in China. The risk to intellectual property that Apple are about to face could be significant. It's all stated in the new law which you can read here -
http://www.chinalawtranslate.com/cybersecuritylaw/?lang=en
chromanoid · 2025-03-26
I think China is on the right track here. https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/kid-mode-guidelines/ While I don't like the privacy implications, I like the screen time limits China establishes. Social media and internet must be treated with much care.
It's like a candy store open 24/7 - completely free and always within reach. Even adults have a hard time to resist TikTok and YT Shorts and the like.
The Internet has changed since I was a kid browsing through GeoCities webrings and the Yahoo Directory while searching with AltaVista. Generations of technology enthusiasts have to acknowledge that the internet of the past is no more and cannot be brought to our children as such.
The temptations we faced then were nothing compared to what children today have to resist.
Just as many countries regulate advertisements aimed at minors, we need to start regulating screen time for kids - before they get pulled into the vortex of influencers and endlessly accessible, mentally corrosive entertainment.
T-A · 2023-10-28
> the original chinese text or the english translation never instruct citizen to spy
The translation by China Law Translate [1] of the Chinese text [2] is in agreement with those provided by Google Translate [3], DeepL Translate [4], and Bing Translator [5]. The only differences are trivial: "intelligence efforts" for some (CLT, Bing) vs "intelligence work" for others (Google, DeepL), capitalization of "State" versus plain "state".
Let's go with CLT and quote the whole thing:
Article 7: All organizations and citizens shall support, assist, and cooperate with national intelligence efforts in accordance with law, and shall protect national intelligence work secrets they are aware of.
The State protects individuals and organizations that support, assist, and cooperate with national intelligence efforts.
What does that mean? Keeping in mind that the law was drafted by the Ministry of State Security [6] ("the principal civilian intelligence, security and secret police agency of the People's Republic of China"), let's see how Wikipedia describes that kind of "efforts" or "work" [7]:
An intelligence agency is a government agency responsible for the collection, analysis, and exploitation of information in support of law enforcement, national security, military, public safety, and foreign policy objectives.
Means of information gathering are both overt and covert and may include espionage, communication interception, cryptanalysis, cooperation with other institutions, and…
elliekelly · 2019-05-04
> The lack of objective, conclusive evidence.
It's my understanding that the Chinese government has acknowledged and even run television commercials, such as this one[1] about the camps. Chinese officials have also made several comments to Chinese newspapers about the existence of the camps[2, 3] and have commented that the purpose of those camps is "reeducation" and to "reform extremism" through labor. The comments also note the purpose of the camps is to prevent terrorism and "separatists" by forcing them to speak the language of the "homeland" which seems to indicate the camps are predominantly intended for Muslims.
Satellite images[4] of the camps indicate the rapid growth of the facilities and the existence of watch towers, redundant high walls, and barbed wire would least most reasonable people to agree these facilities are built to house people against their will. The Chinese government has also acknowledged as much. For example, the Government has repeatedly pointed to the "Opinions on Several Issues on the Application of Law in Cases of Terrorist Activities and Extremism Crimes"[5] as the legal justification for the imprisonment of "terrorist extremists." However one of the "extremist" activities that can be used to imprison someone is "inciting" people to hold a religious marriage ceremony. The document also allows for "administrative punishment" without a trial or conviction.
One analysis of arrests (using data reported by the Chinese government) showed 21%…