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What HN saysCommenters find the Loon balloon navigation software interesting, but one calls the Puerto Rico post marketing fluff, and others cite the 'tackle the monkey first' principle.
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- 1Alphabet Winds Down Loon5 people · 7 points · first shared 2021 · discussion on HN
- 2How Project Loon’s smart software learned to sail the winds5 people · 7 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 3Google X's Dandelion: Home heating and cooling with geothermal energy5 people · 6 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 4Sharing Makani with the World: The Energy Kite Collection4 people · 9 points · first shared 2020 · 1 comments on HN
- 5Tackle the Monkey First4 people · 6 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 6Gcam, the computational photography project that powers the Google Pixel camera2 people · 198 points · first shared 2017 · 75 comments on HN
- 7Alphabet’s X lab spins out molten-salt energy storage project Malta2 people · 31 points · first shared 2018 · 6 comments on HN
- 8Google X: track and monitor thousands of individual fish2 people · 17 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
- 9New chapter for Google Glass2 people · 10 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 10Graduation Day: Introducing Chronicle2 people · 1 points · first shared 2018 · discussion on HN
- 11Helping out in peru 9e5a84839fd22 people · first shared 2017
- 12A long and windy road f8e09d02c9e12 people · first shared 2020
- 13Google relaunches Glass for businesses1 people · 484 points · first shared 2017 · 264 comments on HN
- 14Intrinsic, a new Alphabet company1 people · 385 points · first shared 2021 · 267 comments on HN
- 15Loon’s final flight1 people · 285 points · first shared 2021 · 250 comments on HN
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arosier · 2017-10-21
Definitely the most interesting part of this project in my opinion.
> This is the first time we have used our new machine learning powered algorithms to keep balloons clustered over Puerto Rico, so we’re still learning how best to do this. As we get more familiar with the constantly shifting winds in this region, we hope to keep the balloons over areas where connectivity is needed for as long as possible.
https://blog.x.company/how-project-loons-smart-software-learned-to-sai…
Apparently, back in 2016 they launched the balloons from Puerto Pico to do their first test of the autopilot system in Peru. Now they are flying the balloons from Nevada to implement it in Puerto Rico.
> we had figured out how to cluster balloons in teams, dancing in small loops on the stratospheric winds, over a particular region.
TheAceOfHearts · 2017-10-21
AFAIK, many other big-name companies have been donating manpower and resources to help get PR back on its feet. What makes this announcement any more noteworthy? I'd get it if it included a bit more information, but the blog post reads as marketing fluff.
Does anyone know of any reliable sources showing in-depth sample numbers from previous deployments? I'd be really interested in getting an idea of what area size these balloons could cover, for how long it can be reliably maintained over an area, and their expected throughput. The Helping out in Peru [0] post has a bit of info, but it's very light on details.
If anyone is familiarized with these industries, I'd love to read up on the kinds of challenges faced with getting something like this deployed. Looking at it from an outsider's perspective, being without connectivity for over a month seems like a pretty long time. It's great that Project Loon is seeing improvements in their deployment time, but the article doesn't shed any light on the process, which is rather disappointing.
[0] https://blog.x.company/helping-out-in-peru-9e5a84839fd2
conformist · 2026-06-05
This correlates with tackling the monkey first:
https://blog.x.company/tackle-the-monkey-first-90fd6223e04d?gi=1936391…
xnx · 2025-11-04
Barely mentioning thermal management seems at odds with the X principle of "Don’t use up all your resources on the easy stuff": https://blog.x.company/tackle-the-monkey-first-90fd6223e04d
shagie · 2023-02-22
Airships like a Zeppelin or blimp have some propulsive component to them that let them navigate without the wind.
A balloon can only navigate by catching different winds at different altitudes. When you can control the altitude from 60,000 feet to 120,000 feet there is a significant amount of variation in the direction of winds.
https://www.govtech.com/question-of-the-day/what-is-now-steering-alpha…
https://blog.x.company/drifting-efficiently-through-the-stratosphere-u…
jefftk · 2022-03-29
Loon shut down last year: https://blog.x.company/loons-final-flight-e9d699123a96
(Disclosure: I work at Google, speaking only for myself)
neom · 2021-01-22
It was interesting to me that in the X blog post about Loon, they elevated Wing to the same level as Waymo: https://blog.x.company/loons-final-flight-e9d699123a96
yagyu · 2021-01-22
partingshots · 2018-12-20
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/1.4994054
This is the paper the Malta team uses in their blog (https://blog.x.company/introducing-malta-81bceb559061) on explaining how the system works at large. It’s a pretty good summary.
josefresco · 2018-05-30
My local well drilling guy has offered "geothermal" for years (decades?) Despite a large inventory of wealthy second home owners, he didn't get and still doesn't get many takers. Meanwhile, rooftop solar is everywhere.
My parents almost bought their "retirement home" with an existing geothermal system - it remains the only "real world" home instance of this technology that I have encountered.
$20K also seems very close to the price he told me years ago - I fail to see the innovation here. I'm sure there's something here, but the article doesn't help illuminate it.
Edit: Another HNer posted this, apparently it's a cheaper drilling technique: https://blog.x.company/introducing-dandelion-2706eded169a
olivermarks · 2018-05-30
It appears they are using a better drilling method https://blog.x.company/introducing-dandelion-2706eded169a
I was being cynical as we have a nest that underperforms and sometimes behaves erratically.
The website focuses on exploiting subsidies to install. I'd like to know more about Dandelion in case I missed something, will be interesting to get feedback on effectiveness, performance and noise levels
sp332 · 2018-05-30
Dandelion uses a cheaper drilling method to reduce up-front costs. https://blog.x.company/introducing-dandelion-2706eded169a
alpb · 2018-01-24
The blog post from Astro Teller (of X) subtitled "Cybersecurity needs a moonshot":
https://blog.x.company/graduation-day-introducing-chronicle-318d34b80c…
kyrra · 2017-08-29
To Loon's defense, it actually worked well in the recent flooding on Peru[0].
[0] https://blog.x.company/helping-out-in-peru-9e5a84839fd2
daurnimator · 2017-03-27
How does it break them?
As far as I can see, the only bit that matters is what appears to be a hash at the end. In this case: 3ee86657d6c9. That is, https://blog.x.company/3ee86657d6c9 is the same post.
I don't know how this is substantially+notably different to how other blog platforms do urls.
jlgaddis · 2020-09-13
From https://x.company/projects/makani/:
> In 2020 Makani’s journey as a company came to an end [0]. To share the lessons and insights the Makani team gained from their 13 year journey developing an entirely new kind of wind energy technology, the team created The Energy Kite Collection, a portfolio of resources including a technical report, Makani’s entire avionics, flight controls and simulation code repositories [1], flight logs [2] for every crosswind flight of the M600 prototype, technical videos [3], a new simulation tool called KiteFAST [4] created with the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, and a non-assertion pledge [5] for the free use of Makani’s worldwide patent portfolio.
I just wanna say that this -- all of it, the entire paragraph! -- is absolutely amazing (well, except for the end of the company, of course).
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[0]: https://blog.x.company/a-long-and-windy-road-f8e09d02c9e1
[1]: https://github.com/google/makani
[2]: https://console.cloud.google.com/marketplace/product/bigquery-public-d…
[3]: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7og_3Jqea4VRCZmMNK4LDH64sYgkLZ…
[4]: https://github.com/rafmudaf/openfast/tree/kitefast
[5]: https://storage.googleapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/Makani%20Non-A…