Goodstuff

David Pollak has long been one of Scala's greatest champions but his grudging acceptance that Scala is hard, from a lot of experience in the field, is worth a read: http://blog.goodstuff.im/yes-virginia-scala-is-hard/

"Constantly making waves" is probably more accurate from the days back when Tony Morris was active on the mailing lists. Paul, I believe, also made a fair bit of waves back in the day, but for some reason his were always much more palatable. (He has a very good writing style and is never, that I really remember, flat out mean.) I guess the big waves I remember are essentially about a post a week from Tony. The hoopla around Colebourne's opinions on the language[1]. And then the mystery/whatever around Pollak's involvement in the community.[2] The later point is odd just for how much traction lift seemed to be generating, and then the overall community appeared to reject it heavily. Do note that I would still recommend it. Their community is quite nice and helpful. And I should definitely make clear that it is very possible I just don't see the waves in other communities. I don't really see Scala's anymore; this week being a notable exception. To me, though, high tension is not exactly a good environment. Heck, for all of the flack he gets, Torvalds is usually more cordial than many of the threads I remember from this community. [1] http://blog.joda.org/2011/11/scala-feels-like-ejb-2-and-other.html [2] http://blog.goodstuff.im/yes-virginia-scala-is-hard

This is a very interesting question. The only person I know of who has done this is David Pollak of Scala Lift fame http://blog.goodstuff.im/about

Java(blue collar language http://dfjug.org/thefeelofjava.pdf) is easy. Scala is not(http://blog.goodstuff.im/yes-virginia-scala-is-hard). (I am a Scala fan.)

I like many things about datomic and was in a position to use datomic for a product twice. Each time when I looked at the license it basically said cognitect will make you your bitch now and you're not allowed to talk about it to anyone. We live in a world of ridiculous software licenses, but it was the most ridiculous license I remember ever having encountered. This for a product which required a big leap of faith already (designing your data access around a radically different DB with enormous lock-in, supplied by a small consultancy). Thankfully on superficial inspection it seems like some of the most egregious clauses have gone (Ctrl+F for "disrepute" and "immoral" here: https://blog.goodstuff.im/datomic_license to get a flavour). I'm wondering though: has anyone here ever used datomic after some laywer looked at their previous license? In the unlikely case anyone from datomic cares to comment: did changing the license help sales?

> I just with there was a Lisp like it that didn't run on the JVM. There are a few, with varying degrees of distance from the JVM and varying degrees of similarity to Clojure. - There's ClojureScript, which is Clojure transpiled to JavaScript. - See also Lumo (<https://github.com/anmonteiro/lumo>) and Planck (<https://planck-repl.org/guide-all.html>) - There's Babashka (https://github.com/babashka/babashka), which is a natively-compiled Clojure interpreter, implemented with the Small Clojure Interpreter (https://github.com/babashka/sci) and GraalVM for native compilation. - There's Joker (https://github.com/candid82/joker) with a similar mission to Babashka, but commonly used as a linter. - There's ClojureCLR (https://groups.google.com/g/clojure-clr) on the Common Language Runtime. - There's Cloture (https://github.com/ruricolist/cloture), which is Clojure in Common Lisp. - There's Clojerl (https://www.clojerl.org/), which is Clojure for the Erlang VM. - There's Pixie (https://blog.goodstuff.im/pixie), with Clojure syntax, but compiling to native. - There's Ferret (<https://github.com/nakkaya/ferret>) which is Clojure transpiled to C++11. - There are some Lisps that have borrowed Clojure's syntax: - Janet <https://janet-lang.org/> - Carp <https://github.com/carp-lang/Carp> There are a variety of other Lisp-like languages listed here: https://github.com/dundalek/awesome-lisp-languages Apologies for the formatting.