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Gervase Markham
blog.gerv.net · Personal blog · on HN since 2011
Gervase Markham, a Mozilla developer and evangelical Christian, blogs about Mozilla, security, licensing and his personal views.
What HN saysHN links it for the Mozilla relicensing post, and for his anti-gay-marriage petition, which drew heated criticism from commenters, some accusing him of discrimination.
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Most-shared posts
- 1Going Home2 people · 11 points · first shared 2018 · 1 comments on HN
- 2Security Updates Not Needed2 people · 7 points · first shared 2016 · 1 comments on HN
- 3Diginotar compromise2 people · first shared 2011
- 4Your ire is misdirected2 people · first shared 2014
- 5Coalition for marriage petition2 people · first shared 2012
- 6Relicensing complete2 people · first shared 2012
- 7Microsoft ‘Mortally Wounds’ SHA-11 people · 105 points · first shared 2013 · 67 comments on HN
- 8Facebook doing MITM attack on your email.1 people · 33 points · first shared 2012 · 21 comments on HN
- 9New Class of Vulnerability in Perl Web Applications1 people · 10 points · first shared 2014 · 1 comments on HN
- 10No Money in Email Clients1 people · 8 points · first shared 2013 · 15 comments on HN
- 11Introducing Deliberate Protocol Errors: Langley’s Law1 people · 5 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
- 12WoSign and StartCom1 people · 5 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
- 13More “Transmittable” Short URLs1 people · 3 points · first shared 2012 · discussion on HN
- 14Email Account Phishers Do Manual Work1 people · 3 points · first shared 2014 · discussion on HN
- 15Facebook switches off email forwarding1 people · 2 points · first shared 2016 · discussion on HN
What HN people wrote when they linked it
brson · 2024-11-07
To the students and mentors: congrats. GSoC is a great program and a great way to get involved in the industry. I hope you had an amazing experience.
Not to take away from them, but the first sentence of this official Rust post kinda stunned me: "the Rust Project participated in Google Summer of Code (GSoC) for the first time this year". There may be an interpretation of this sentence that is true, but multiple students have worked on Rust GSoC projects under Mozilla (which at the time ran the Rust Project), and quite a few worked on Rust GSoC projects under other organizations.
At the least, Michael Woerister worked on debuginfo in 2013, and Igor Matuszewski on the RLS in 2017. [1] [2]
Please Rust Project do better at remembering your history.
[1]: https://blog.gerv.net/2013/06/gsoc-2013-project-list/
[2]: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2017/projects/522509427199…
DonHopkins · 2014-04-25
Is Gerv Markham the person who ironically claims to be "Hacking for Christ [1]", a religious leader who preached love and acceptance instead of hatred and discrimination [2]?
The same Gerv who posted an anti-gay-marriage petition to his blog [3] that was syndicated to the public Planet Mozilla forum, publicly calling on Mozilla community members to support the Coalition for Marriage [4], a homophobic hate group [5] that endorsed the legal codification of marriage in the UK as "the voluntary union for life of one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others," [6] by distributing misleading gay marriage leaflets [7]?
The same Gerv whose bigoted post to Mozilla's public forum ignited a controversy about what kinds of content Mozilla tolerates on its Web properties, and triggered an internal discussion examining the nature and desirability of community standards for inclusion [8], which set the stage for the reaction to the revelation of Brendan Eich's $1000 donation in support of Proposition 8 [9], which eventually led to his ignoble resignation as CEO of Mozilla [10], and earned him the humiliating endorsement of support and call to arms from Eric Raymond, who threw down the gauntlet by proclaiming:
"Then I think it is now the duty of every friend of free speech and every enemy of political bullying to pledge not only to donate $1000 to the next anti-gay-marriage initiative to come along, but to say publicly that they have done so as a protest against bullying."…
strafer32 · 2014-04-25
You ask in what way are your comments abusive. I believe you to be trolling because of your style of argument. You say things like [1]:
"Gert (and his supporters), do you also hate women, blacks and jews as much as you hate gays, and do you agree with Brendan Eich’s support of Patrick J. Buchanan and Ron Paul?"
In that entire comment you bring up unrelated issues involving US politicians as if trying to direct supporters of Mozilla and Brendan of being supporters of that view. People discussing with you then have to address points like that or be seen as supporting it. It's a classic trolling technique to do this.
I also find statements like the following abusive [2]:
"Apparently the people who warned me that you had such a thick skull that no outside information could get through and affect your thought processes were correct, and that makes me sad, because I had more faith in you."
In that comment you bring up the Mormon religion which I have no idea what that has to do with Mozilla or the Brendan Eich saga. Again, classic troll misdirection.
[1] http://blog.gerv.net/2014/04/your-ire-is-misdirected/#comment-39537
[2] http://blog.gerv.net/2014/04/your-ire-is-misdirected/#comment-39586
Ded7xSEoPKYNsDd · 2016-02-27
Mozilla relicensed code from 445 contributors (from MPL-only to MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license). It took them 5 years [1]. Consider complications like finding the relatives of a dead contributor, getting them to listen to you, then to understand the issue, then to agree. The Linux codebase is much older and has accumulated more contributors over that time, so the task is much larger, too.
1: http://blog.gerv.net/2006/03/relicensing_complete/
sanxiyn · 2012-11-15
See also this post on Mozilla relicensing:
http://blog.gerv.net/2006/03/relicensing_complete/
SimHacker · 2012-04-05
Brendan Eich is not the only one working at Mozilla who is making the LGBT and non-troglodite employees and volunteers feel uncomfortable.
Brendan refuses to address the issue and share his side of the story. But at least Brendan's colleague Gervase Markham at Mozilla had the guts to publicly publish and attempt to explain his hateful bigoted beliefs about gay marriage, and not censor the comments that people left on his blog, even if he ignored all the valid arguments that he had no answer to (which was most of them).
http://blog.gerv.net/2012/03/coalition-for-marriage-petition/
zby · 2011-09-05
some more info: http://blog.gerv.net/2011/09/diginotar-compromise/
rwg · 2011-09-03
Mozilla's Gervase Markham posted a more detailed (and, frankly, more damning) blog entry about the DigiNotar fiasco:
http://blog.gerv.net/2011/09/diginotar-compromise/