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The CentOS project itself called Greg a founding member in a blog post interviewing him in 2019, well before the Red Hat/CentOS events in December 2020. https://blog.centos.org/2019/03/greg-kurtzer-centos-founder/ For what it's worth, The Register refers to Greg as a CentOS founder in their first Rocky article: https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/10/rocky_linux If you have some references to back your assertions, I would very much like to see them. You're not the first person I've seen assert that Greg shouldn't be called a founder of CentOS, but I've yet to see that backed up. Also, you seem to minimize the non-technical, especially legal, work around setting up and maintaining a distribution, but I don't understand why. In terms of legal work, trademarks need to be registered, non-profits need to be set up to fund critical items like build infrastructure, and more. Each of these seems like exceptionally valuable, if not critical, to the success of a distribution.

Stream 8 is already EOL: https://blog.centos.org/2023/04/end-dates-are-coming-for-centos-stream…

NB CentOS was given the EoL date in 2020[0] There is a difference between CentOS and CentOS Stream https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

I wasn't clear what's changing that is so problematic, so to summarize this post[1] and various comments: CentOS Stream will track ahead of RHEL and thus will be more like a beta channel, losing the stability guarantees that CentOS users depended on. [1]: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

Seems like some folks are considering to create an alternative: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/#comment-18364… https://join.slack.com/t/hpcng/shared_invite/zt-gy0st6mt-ijgUaSvfdeEOh…

Hi there. I am the author of the Register article that you quote: > this was language The Register used in an article So, in response to that, I'd like to point out a few things. 1. This is, I feel, now widely and well-established language in this discussion. For example, note its use in the comments to this article about the discontinuation of CentOS Linux three years ago: https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/ 2. Others are using it in the context of this story; for example, here: https://fosspost.org/red-hat-is-shooting-itself-in-the-foot-again/ 3. The direct personal reason that I used the phrase "a bunch of freeloaders" is that this is a Douglas Adams quotation, or rather, paraphrase. I am not an especially big name, but those who do know my name may recognise it: I was once the president of ZZ 9 Plural Z alpha, the official Douglas Adams appreciation society. I was interviewed quite widely in media around the world at the time that the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy film came out. I used the phrase in order to refer to the Douglas Adams line about "a taxi service for a bunch of degenerate freeloaders." For reasons which I trust are obvious I removed the adjective.

Side topic: I see references everywhere (including this article) that the "co-founder of CentOS started a new distribution: Rocky Linux". I am not familiar with the history of CentOS, so I tried to understand who Gregory Kurtzer is, and to be honest, I am still not quite sure what he did for CentOS. My understanding is that he helped start the project and more or less helped it grow during the first 2 years, then was somehow removed from the leading board? https://blog.centos.org/2019/03/greg-kurtzer-centos-founder/ This story is very unclear to me. It seems McGaugh started CentOS, and then handed it over to "someone in the UK" instead of Gregory Kurtzer. https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Gregory_Kurtzer_discusses_plans_for_Roc… The second article make it seem like McGaugh was some kind of employee of Kurtzer: > One of our developers, Rocky McGaugh, quickly rebuilt the sources in RHEL to give us a stable foundation. That was the beginning of CentOS I really don't want to start a flame war here, just curious of understanding who this guy is really.