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Ben Dickson writes about AI research and products, including large language models, neural network limits, and applied machine learning.

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    The GPT-3 Economy
    6 people · 5 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
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    Why neural networks struggle with the Game of Life
    4 people · 272 points · first shared 2020 · 83 comments on HN
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    What does it take to create a GPT-3 product?
    3 people · 8 points · first shared 2021 · discussion on HN
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    Large language models have a reasoning problem
    3 people · 2 points · first shared 2022 · 1 comments on HN
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    Machine learning adversarial image scaling
    3 people · first shared 2021
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    Why lifeless AI is not intelligent
    2 people · 24 points · first shared 2021 · 16 comments on HN
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    A different take on adversarial attacks
    2 people · 1 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
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    Why machine learning struggles with causality
    1 people · 185 points · first shared 2021 · 119 comments on HN
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    If AI can read, then plain text can be weaponized (2019)
    1 people · 101 points · first shared 2022 · 59 comments on HN
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    The case for hybrid artificial intelligence
    1 people · 13 points · first shared 2020 · discussion on HN
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giantrobot · 2021-08-19
It's entirely possible to alter an image such that its raw form looks different from its scaled form [0]. A government or just well resourced group can take a legitimate CSAM image and modify it such that when scaled for use in the perceptual algorithm(s) it changes to be some politically sensitive image. Upon review it'll look like CSAM so off it goes to reporting agencies. Because the perceptual hash algorithms are presented as black boxes the image they perceive isn't audited or reviewed. There's zero recognition of this weakness by Apple or NCMEC (and their equivalents). For the system to even begin to be trustworthy all content would need to be reviewed raw and scaled-as-fed-into-the-algorithm. [0] https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/08/03/machine-learning-adversarial-image-…
NRv9tR · 2024-10-08
If I understand correctly Tesla is/has removed LIDAR and uses computer vision for most/all of their self driving. https://bdtechtalks.com/2021/06/28/tesla-computer-vision-autonomous-dr…
isusmelj · 2024-08-23
I think that is similar to what Yann LeCun outlined: https://bdtechtalks.com/2022/03/07/yann-lecun-ai-self-supervised-learn…
therobots927 · 2024-06-05
I think there’s a chance that AI capabilities have already plateaued. Why else would OpenAI make their latest chatbot free? They need more data to train it! Same goes for the big tech companies talking about making agreements with newspapers and book publishers. None of this is a good sign in my opinion. I recently found this old article which speaks to what you’re saying, why can’t a neural network learn the rules of game of life? The input is clean (pixels) so why isn’t the output clean? https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/09/16/deep-learning-game-of-life/
cscurmudgeon · 2023-03-26
> “Humans are actually reasoning. LLMs are not.” Again, how would you measure such a thing? Wow. Leave it to HN commenters to arrogantly ignore research by those in the field. 1. LLMs can't reason or calculate. This is why we have ToolFormer or Plugins in the first place. Even GTP-4 is bad at reasoning. Maybe GPT-infinity will be good? Who knows. 2. They call out to tools that can calculate or reason (Humans built these tools not aliens) 3. How can humans do 2 if they can't reason? https://arxiv.org/abs/2205.11502 More informal presentation here: https://bdtechtalks.com/2022/06/27/large-language-models-logical-reaso…
webmaven · 2023-01-17
Geoffrey Hinton recently came up with a new "forward forward" algorithm that seems to fit the bill: https://bdtechtalks.com/2022/12/19/forward-forward-algorithm-geoffrey-…
I assume these "non-private image derivatives" are downscaled versions of the original image. But for downscaling there also are adversarial techniques: perturb an image such that the downscaled version looks like a target image. See https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/08/03/machine-learning-adversarial-image-…
bildung · 2021-03-24
The ML field alone is full of unreproducable papers. Example: "“Probably 50%-75% of all papers are unreproducible. It’s sad, but it’s true,” another user wrote. “Think about it, most papers are ‘optimized’ to get into a conference. More often than not the authors know that a paper they’re trying to get into a conference isn’t very good! So they don’t have to worry about reproducibility because nobody will try to reproduce them.” https://bdtechtalks.com/2021/03/01/papers-without-code-machine-learnin…
car · 2021-02-20
Right. I’m naive in assigning more capability to these models than they posess. I found a quote from Geoff Hinton where he talked about this last year. From [1]: “I can take an image and a tiny bit of noise and CNNs will recognize it as something completely different and I can hardly see that it’s changed. That seems really bizarre and I take that as evidence that CNNs are actually using very different information from us to recognize images,” Hinton said in his keynote speech at the AAAI Conference. “It’s not that it’s wrong, they’re just doing it in a very different way, and their very different way has some differences in how it generalizes,” Hinton says. [1] https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/03/02/geoffrey-hinton-convnets-cnn-limits…
qayxc · 2021-01-27
Get used to it. The infrastructure involved is just too expensive to run at home. The same applies to quantum computers. Models like GPT-3 are way too big for a consumer machine to handle and require something like a DXG-station [0][1] with 4x 80 GiB A100 GPUs to run properly. So even if the model were available for download, you wouldn't be able to even run it without hardware costing north of $125,000. It's less about restricting knowledge and more about the insane amount of resources required. It's not as bad as getting access to FMRI or particle accelerators, but it's getting there ;) [0] https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/09/21/gpt-3-economy-business-model/ [1] https://www.nvidia.com/content/dam/en-zz/Solutions/Data-Center/dgx-sta…
fennecfoxen · 2020-11-04
Let's see. According to https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/09/21/gpt-3-economy-business-model/ GPT-3 was run on V100s, which are the previous generation server GPUs ("Volta" vs "Ampere"). "GPT-3 uses half-precision floating-point variables at 16 bits per parameter... At around $130,000, DGX-1 is short on VRAM (8×16 GB), but has all the other components for a solid performance on GPT-3." (DGX-1 is the previous chassis NVIDIA offered for hosting V100s.) So I tentatively think the answer is yes, a single DGX-A100 probably can run GPT-3 comfortably. You'll still want a cluster of them to train it, though, because they note training takes about 355 V100-years.
dynamite-ready · 2020-10-07
This is a very article on the subject of GPT3's 'market position' - https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/09/21/gpt-3-economy-business-model/
pegasus · 2023-02-10
Yet ChatGPT totally - apparently - gets 1 + 1. In fact it aces the addition table way beyond what a child or even your average adult can handle. It's only when you get to numbers in the billions that it's weaknesses become apparent. One thing it starts messing up is carry-over operations, from what I can see. Btw. the treshold used to be significanly lower, yet that doesn't convince me in the least that it's made progress in its understanding of addition. It's still just as much in the fog. And it cannot introspect and tell me what it's doing so I can point out where it's going wrong. But I think you are right in what you are saying. Basically it not 'seeing' math as a child does, is just another way to say that it doesn't undestand math. It doesn't have a intuitive understanding of numbers. It also can't really experiment. What would experimenting mean in this context? Just more training cycles. This being math, one could have it run random sums and give it the correct answer each time. That's one way to experiment, but that wouldn't solve the issue. At some point it would reach its capacity of absorbing statistical corelations to deal with numbers large enough. It would need more neurons to progress beyond that stage. Btw. I found this relevant article: https://bdtechtalks.com/2022/06/27/large-language-models-logical-reaso…
saithound · 2021-08-19
Yes, I can. This is just one possible strategy: there are many others, where different things are done, and where things are done in a different order. You use the collider [1] and one of the many scaling attacks ([2] [3] [4], just the ones linked in this thread) to create an image that matches the hash of a reasonably fresh CSAM image currently circulating on the Internet, and resizes to some legal sexual or violent image. Note that knowing such a hash and having such an image are both perfectly legal. Moreover, since the resizing (the creation of the visual derivative) is done on the client, you can tailor your scaling attack to the specific resampling algorithm. Eventually, someone will make a CyberTipline report about the actual CSAM image whose hash you used, and the image (being a genuine CSAM image) will make its way into the NCMEC hash database. You will even be able to tell precisely when this happens, since you have the client-side half of the PST database, and you can execute the NeuralHash algorithm. You can start circulating the meme before or after this step. Repeat until you have circulated enough photos to make sure that many people in the targeted group have exceeded the threshold. Note that the memes will trigger automated CSAM matches, and pass the Apple employee's visual inspection: due to the safety voucher system, Apple will not inspect the full-size images at all, and they will have no way of telling that the NeuralHash is a false positive. [1]…
cosmicgadget · 2025-04-25
HiddenLayer's latest research uncovers a universal prompt injection bypass impacting GPT-4, Claude, Gemini, and more, exposing major LLM security gaps. (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43793280) 1. Machine learning adversarial attacks are a ticking time bomb - TechTalks (https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/12/16/machine-learning-adversarial-attack… 2. How ChatGPT actually works (https://www.assemblyai.com/blog/how-chatgpt-actually-works/) 3. PrivacyRaven Has Left the Nest | Trail of Bits Blog (https://blog.trailofbits.com/2020/10/08/privacyraven-has-left-the-nest… 4. Prompt injection: What's the worst that can happen? (https://simonwillison.net/2023/Apr/14/worst-that-can-happen/) 5. The big cybersecurity themes at Black Hat 2024 - and why they matter (https://www.reversinglabs.com/blog/the-big-cybersecurity-themes-at-bla…

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