All Things Linguistic
allthingslinguistic.com · Personal blog · on HN since 2013
A linguistics blog covering word origins, slang, grammar quirks and language trivia for a general audience.
What HN saysHN links it for linguistics curiosities such as anti-shibboleths ("friscos"), color words like orange hair being called red, and the word "lox."
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- 1The opposite of a shibboleth is a frisco2 people · 32 points · first shared 2024 · 40 comments on HN
- 2A weird Internet career in linguistics2 people · 5 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 3Why the new because isnt a preposition but is2 people · first shared 2015
- 4Names for mama, papa, and other kinship terms in 500 languages1 people · 2 points · first shared 2026 · discussion on HN
- 5The orgin and constraints of “shitgibbon” compounds1 people · 2 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 6All Things Linguistic1 people · 1 points · first shared 2019 · discussion on HN
- 7Harry Potter and the Neural Network Fan Fiction1 people · 1 points · first shared 2017 · discussion on HN
- 8What makes an effective synonym for Benedict Cumberbatch?1 people · 1 points · first shared 2013 · discussion on HN
- 9Reviews of because internet1 people · first shared 2019
- 10Blind people gesture and why thats kind of a big1 people · first shared 2020
- 11Do women talk too much hint science says no1 people · first shared 2017
- 12Why dont we say orangehead instead of1 people · first shared 2024
- 13The english word that hasnt changed in sound or1 people · first shared 2022
- 14Cather wren catherine fangirl and the pinpen1 people · first shared 2017
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xianshou · 2024-01-08
An excellent example of an anti-shibboleth, also known as a "frisco":
https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/45448571632/the-opposite-of-a-shi…
These signal words act as a silent, passive test of competence in that once you hear them, you can be assured of the speaker's ignorance and discount their opinions accordingly.
zodiac · 2016-05-13
Yes, of course your "right mate" example is also grammatically correct. The point is that people routinely and naturally do the complicated transformation to "will the man who has written the book be followed?", and that transformation can't be done by simple pattern matching. Hence, humans who are able to do the complicated transformation must be mentally parsing the sentence. The fact that there is an alternative simple transformation to form the yes-no question is irrelevant because the ability to use the complicated transformation still exists.
> given how humans have no trouble parsing "invalid" sentences
I think you misunderstand slightly - the claim linguists make is not "humans are unable to understand invalid sentences because they can't parse them", the claim is that when you see an invalid (cannot be parsed into a proper tree) sentence, you have a gut feeling that it "sounds off", and if you're a native speaker you would never accidentally produce such ill-formed sentences. You can still understand the meaning of a sentence like "I this morning fish eat" but you also immediately notice that it's "off" - and that's the phenomena that syntax tries to explain.
Furthermore, the way you understand sentences like "I this morning fish eat" is different from the way you understand "I ate fish this morning", in the former it feels like you're guessing. It could work for communicating simple thoughts, but I doubt an english non-speaker who has an english dictionary could…
alberto_ol · 2024-12-11
In English (but also in other languages like my Italian) orange hair is called red because the color orange arrived too late with the orange fruit.
https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/33117530568/why-dont-we-say-orang…
RcouF1uZ4gsC · 2022-10-01
“Lox” is also one of the oldest words in English. It is a proto-Indo-European word that has retained the same meaning and sound for thousands of years.
https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/185617923376/the-english-word-tha…
dang · 2020-07-15
Url changed from https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/150001033323/blind-people-gesture… which points to this.
A related article is https://www.thecut.com/2016/09/blind-people-gesture-like-sighted-peopl…
petecox · 2019-07-23
More coverage of Gretchen's book is quoted on her daily linguistics blog:
https://allthingslinguistic.com/post/186456220892/reviews-of-because-i…
jasode · 2017-09-12
Reddit[1] made me aware of 2 specific examples:
"pin" == "pen" : http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/81929757765/cather-wren-catherine-…
"soda" vs "pop" vs "coke": http://popvssoda.com/
All the examples I've seen overlap closely with the Southern belt of states.
For a more HN-flavored survey, I wonder if there's a clear regional boundary for "tuple". I've heard it pronounced "too-pull" (sorta like "pupil") and "tuppel" (like "couple"). Don't know if that's an East vs West coast thing or a Cambridge/Oxford/England vs MIT/Stanford/USA thing. Maybe it's just random based on who you heard it from first.
(But let us stay away from discussing "gif". There are standards of civility here.)
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/14y6tc/til_most_southe…
andrelaszlo · 2015-08-28
Yes I was kind of wondering if this is a new thing, like because[0,1,2] or if it's canonical English. I was looking for an analysis like [0] on this, but I couldn't find any.
0: http://allthingslinguistic.com/post/72252671648/why-the-new-because-is…
1: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/because-as-a-prepos…
2: https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2013/11/13/because-has-become-a-prepos…
halostatue · 2017-08-08
Affirmative action programs are controversial because people who have privilege generally don’t like other people getting that privilege (because then they are no longer special).
As an analogous situation, men often claim that women talk too much. There’s fairly strong evidence that the claim is merely sexist nonsense[1].
So forgive me if I’m unwilling to give a crap about whether people who look like me (white men) feel like they’re getting the short end of the stick because there are people like me working to end the special privileges that they have gotten literally for decades. Especially since so many of them really aren’t all that. The London School of Economics makes it clear that gender quotas actually improve meritocracy by squeezing out mediocre men[2].
Your rephrasing is mostly correct, but I would go so far as to say that if you don’t know how to see your own biases, you cannot design a meritocratic interview process that doesn’t inherently have bias against women and/or minorities. As this entire discussion on the firing of the author of the screed shows…there’s a lot of people who can’t see that they have biases.
(And yes, I have biases. I have to work very hard to prevent those biases from causing me to discriminate. This is largely why I involve my team in hiring and constantly discuss the problems with bias blindness with them, too.)
[1] http://thejunglenook.tumblr.com/post/75517868909/do-women-talk-too-muc… … but also see [3] as…